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Old 03-10-2012, 12:04 AM   #76
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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I am not really sure I like the river bet either. He has quads more often than a chop and he isn't necessarily calling the river with KJ/JT
I am really sure I don't like it.
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Old 03-11-2012, 12:45 AM   #77
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

Can I station down here? My image is very laggy. Villain is a sliiiightly winner at mtt's, very small sample. Mainly a cashplayer.

big 162


Poker Stars $150+$12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds + t60 - 8 players - View hand 1675751
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aletz99 (BB): t17004 M = 13.82
MRMONARO (UTG): t12428 M = 10.10
Hero (UTG+1): t19309 M = 15.70
cynicalfish (MP1): t22057 M = 17.93
dutchy1900 (MP2): t9116 M = 7.41
TheJackal773 (CO): t8527 M = 6.93
dhilton12 (BTN): t23904 M = 19.43
RedPantRed (SB): t6836 M = 5.56

Pre Flop: (t1230) Hero is UTG+1 with A 6
1 fold, Hero raises to t1000, 5 folds, aletz99 calls t500

Flop: (t2730) 9 4 9 (2 players)
aletz99 checks, Hero bets t1090, aletz99 raises to t2455, Hero calls t1365

Turn: (t7640) 2 (2 players)
aletz99 bets t2950, Hero calls t2950

River: (t13540) K (2 players)
aletz99 bets t10539 all in, Hero calls t10539
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Old 03-11-2012, 02:29 AM   #78
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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Can I station down here? My image is very laggy. Villain is a sliiiightly winner at mtt's, very small sample. Mainly a cashplayer.

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aletz99 (BB): t17004 M = 13.82
MRMONARO (UTG): t12428 M = 10.10
Hero (UTG+1): t19309 M = 15.70
cynicalfish (MP1): t22057 M = 17.93
dutchy1900 (MP2): t9116 M = 7.41
TheJackal773 (CO): t8527 M = 6.93
dhilton12 (BTN): t23904 M = 19.43
RedPantRed (SB): t6836 M = 5.56

Pre Flop: (t1230) Hero is UTG+1 with A 6
1 fold, Hero raises to t1000, 5 folds, aletz99 calls t500

Flop: (t2730) 9 4 9 (2 players)
aletz99 checks, Hero bets t1090, aletz99 raises to t2455, Hero calls t1365

Turn: (t7640) 2 (2 players)
aletz99 bets t2950, Hero calls t2950

River: (t13540) K (2 players)
aletz99 bets t10539 all in, Hero calls t10539
Is this a joke! Fold pre , fold flop, fold turn and pretty much this is a ridiculous question that you Shud be embarrassed posting

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Old 03-11-2012, 10:22 AM   #79
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

Nope. I'm only afraid for K's, but that's unlikely after the turn, aces and random 9. So I did call down, and he had a missed fd.
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Old 03-11-2012, 10:30 AM   #80
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

Think we could argue for x/c flop b/f etc etc. Turn and river standard? C/f turn? B/f seems unnecessary I think

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SB: t3392 M = 14.13
BB: t5190 M = 21.62
UTG: t9283 M = 38.68
UTG+1: t5215 M = 21.73
Hero (UTG+2): t6285 M = 26.19
MP1: t4980 M = 20.75
MP2: t10728 M = 44.70
CO: t2587 M = 10.78
BTN: t12909 M = 53.79

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is UTG+2 with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to t250, 1 fold, MP2 calls t250, 4 folds

Flop: (t740) T J 8 (2 players)
Hero bets t430, MP2 calls t430

Turn: (t1600) J (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t890, Hero calls t890

River: (t3380) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t1790 Hero folds
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Old 03-11-2012, 12:33 PM   #81
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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fwiw I think thats a tough/close spot with TT, would still shove, but would fold 99
Ya this. Think that hand is basically the epitome of what this thread is supposed to be for so not entirely sure I understand the hate..
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:28 PM   #82
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Think we could argue for x/c flop b/f etc etc. Turn and river standard? C/f turn? B/f seems unnecessary I think

Poker Stars $100+$9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds + t10 - 9 players - View hand 1676025
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SB: t3392 M = 14.13
BB: t5190 M = 21.62
UTG: t9283 M = 38.68
UTG+1: t5215 M = 21.73
Hero (UTG+2): t6285 M = 26.19
MP1: t4980 M = 20.75
MP2: t10728 M = 44.70
CO: t2587 M = 10.78
BTN: t12909 M = 53.79

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is UTG+2 with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to t250, 1 fold, MP2 calls t250, 4 folds

Flop: (t740) T J 8 (2 players)
Hero bets t430, MP2 calls t430

Turn: (t1600) J (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t890, Hero calls t890

River: (t3380) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t1790 Hero folds
I would probably play it the same way versus someone I don't know much about.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:49 PM   #83
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

Opponent is competent. I've been relatively nitty but have got in my share of opens and 3bets. He's been active but not crazy or anything. I feel like he's checking back the river so often. Giving up on his bluffs like Q9, 64s, 65s type hands. Checking back his value hands like K8, K5s, 85s, etc. I have about a pot size bet on the river. What do you think about leading like 250k on river? Lead shoving? Checking to induce?



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    Hero (SB): 1,659,015 (41.5 bb)
    BB: 2,026,202 (50.7 bb)
    BTN: 2,875,783 (71.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J Q
    BTN folds, Hero raises to 100,000, BB calls 60,000

    Flop: (212,000) 8 J 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets 89,700, BB calls 89,700

    Turn: (391,400) K (2 players)
    Hero bets 169,700, BB raises to 364,800, Hero calls 195,100

    River: (1,121,000) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks




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    Old 03-12-2012, 04:39 AM   #84
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

    Bet or probably jam river.
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    Old 03-12-2012, 04:43 AM   #85
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    i think betting something really tiny like 80-120k is best. i dont think he's gonna have many Ks or 8's or 33 very often but if he does you will squeak out a little bit of value from them as he will be extremely tilted over the sizing and never fold any form of 2 pair that he would likely just check back (and could very likely raise some of these hands vs this bet). also a lot of the time he's gonna have bluffs and semi bluffs and will likely bluff again, and in most instances, more often vs this than a check. i think something as big as 250k isn't as effective since he rarely will have a hand good enough to call that and will bluff vs it way less often.
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    Old 03-12-2012, 08:46 AM   #86
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    shove
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    Old 03-12-2012, 10:22 AM   #87
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

    Jamming river is def good with QJ
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    Old 03-12-2012, 10:23 AM   #88
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    Stone Money Bubble - 1k Live MTT. 20 pay, 21 left.
    Most players are playing fairly cautiously, but theres definitely been good 3betting spots for the middle stacks.

    4k/8k/1k ante

    Hero: 85k
    V1 110k
    BTN 140k Button
    SB 60k
    BB 80k

    Hero has ...
    44
    AQo
    JTs

    Are these 3 all profitable and standard open ship spots?
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    Old 03-12-2012, 10:31 AM   #89
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    4cardstraight,
    Yes
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    Old 03-12-2012, 03:12 PM   #90
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    Stone Money Bubble - 1k Live MTT. 20 pay, 21 left.
    Most players are playing fairly cautiously, but theres definitely been good 3betting spots for the middle stacks.

    4k/8k/1k ante

    Hero: 85k
    V1 110k
    BTN 140k Button
    SB 60k
    BB 80k

    Hero has ...
    44
    AQo
    JTs

    Are these 3 all profitable and standard open ship spots?
    I would ship 44 and AQo, but fold JTs
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    Old 03-12-2012, 03:22 PM   #91
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

    Its 55 2x chance turbo, direct bubble, i opened the previous hand and everyone folded. Everyone behind is a reg.

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    Hero (MP2) (t41551)
    CO (t82988)
    Button (t33299)
    SB (t38684)
    BB (t48834)
    UTG (t26548)
    MP1 (t4910)

    Hero's M: 7.55

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, Q
    2 folds, Hero ???
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    Old 03-12-2012, 04:19 PM   #92
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    Just rip er on in there, what else would we do?
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    Old 03-12-2012, 04:32 PM   #93
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    Just rip er on in there, what else would we do?
    This
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    Old 03-12-2012, 04:47 PM   #94
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    We have way too many threads that garner more trolling than replies. I figure one of these would be good to clean up HSMTT and stop people from tooling out when someone posts something they consider beneath them.

    Stole the idea from HSPLO. Post spots where you think the hand is fairly simple and doesn't require a lot of thought, but you want some reassurance that you're doing it right.

    DO: Include reads and/or HUD stats

    DON'T: Include results
    as you get better and better, of course it will be harder to get value from the forums - you surpass people if you are working hard...

    I too wonder how some of the people that post play high stakes anything
    - but we should be glad they do
    - and we could just ignore the threads we have contempt for - and you were a beginner once too (ok you may have been 14, but you were)
    - and really (taking the 4 betting AK 300bb deep after opening UTG and wondering what to do to the 5) - isnt it useful for you to know that some players consider this a problem?

    And Im sure a year ago, if not last week, I've posted **** that makes me look like a noob...

    Dunno - this is a community - lets act like it and be nice (sounds so gross) to one another - and yes some people are better than others.... sometimes much...
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    Old 03-13-2012, 05:49 AM   #95
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    Just rip er on in there, what else would we do?
    just wanted to see if anyone suggests raising instead of shoving
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    Old 03-13-2012, 11:34 AM   #96
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    I'd raise call vs. some people fold vs. others. with kqo otb.

    Last edited by Pudge714; 03-13-2012 at 11:34 AM. Reason: and i'd minraise my whole range there.
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    Old 03-13-2012, 03:38 PM   #97
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    minraising your whole range sounds terrible.
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    Old 03-13-2012, 03:39 PM   #98
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    On the direct bubble, when getting all in is a disaster, i think it's optimal.
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    Old 03-13-2012, 03:46 PM   #99
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    Well, the problem is the 80k stack and BB will realize that and ship way wider than they would call, making the minraise with KQ problematic
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    Old 03-13-2012, 03:52 PM   #100
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    Well, the problem is the 80k stack and BB will realize that and ship way wider than they would call, making the minraise with KQ problematic
    Not if I am m/r calling the top of my range and tightening my opening range.
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