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Old 03-04-2012, 12:12 PM   #26
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

big 162 against a very good reg with abi $100 and up 150k.. seems like I'm never in really good shape here.. if you do go with it are we just getting it in now or calling and getting it in on safe turns?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $150 Buy-in (20/40 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12056332

MP3: 2,900 (72.5 bb)
CO: 6,535 (163.4 bb)
BTN: 3,100 (77.5 bb)
SB: 2,855 (71.4 bb)
BB: 5,610 (140.3 bb)
UTG+2: 4,589 (114.7 bb)
Hero (MP1): 3,255 (81.4 bb)
MP2: 3,050 (76.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K K
UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to 100, 3 folds, BTN calls 100, SB calls 80, BB folds

Flop: (340) 8 J T (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 200, BTN folds, SB raises to 570
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:32 PM   #27
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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big 162 against a very good reg with abi $100 and up 150k.. seems like I'm never in really good shape here.. if you do go with it are we just getting it in now or calling and getting it in on safe turns?
ALways folding in that spot without a lot of history with opponent.
If you are ahead there are way too many turns/rivers you will have to fold to anyway, so save yourself 500 and wait for another spot.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:39 PM   #28
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Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

Check the flop.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:40 PM   #29
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mehh. tough spot. Our eq is nvr rlly good here but dont like folding neither. I guess i would flat and assuming he'll never check we get it in on all blank turns.

Doubt hell flat Q9s there so maybe 99 KQs AQs etc. we still beat a decent amount of combos and we still have position. OOP we fold.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:42 PM   #30
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Check the flop.
This i like more then c-betting btw. but after cbetting i dont like folding.
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Old 03-04-2012, 01:49 PM   #31
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Why aren't we shoving the turn being so shallow?
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:31 PM   #32
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Got nothing on villain, location is Brazil.

4-bet/sizing standard? Anybody flat the 3-bet?

What now?





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    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12055202

    BioV@sU (UTG+1): 7,255 (60.5 bb)
    tunnny (UTG+2): 10,960 (91.3 bb)
    GringoBrasil (MP1): 4,538 (37.8 bb)
    nadalon (MP2): 6,052 (50.4 bb)
    viktor1963nn (MP3): 1,864 (15.5 bb)
    Hero (CO): 13,356 (111.3 bb)
    LaliTournier (BTN): 17,320 (144.3 bb)
    bloczek60 (SB): 12,260 (102.2 bb)
    Alex198818 (BB): 12,158 (101.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A J
    5 folds, Hero raises to 240, LaliTournier raises to 720, 2 folds, Hero raises to 1,965, LaliTournier raises to 4,910




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    Cant flat 3 bet because it puts you in an akward spot. 4 betting is risky, but I would proboally cut my losses and fold.
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    Old 03-04-2012, 11:48 PM   #33
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    Merge highroller Maximus series. $215 BI.

    He has 3bet my EP open 1 round earlier and I folded. He's only been at table for 13 hands and he's 31/31 w 2/6 3bets. iirc his last 3bet might have been closer to 2.5x than this one.

    Get it in?

    Merge - $0+$0.00|<> NL - Holdem - 9 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    MP: 6,428.00
    MP+1: 20,090.00
    LP: 12,005.00
    CO: 12,558.00
    BTN: 15,320.00
    SB: 40,729.00
    BB: 19,353.00
    Hero (UTG): 5,611.00
    UTG+1: 15,724.00

    MP posts ante 30.00, MP+1 posts ante 30.00, LP posts ante 30.00, CO posts ante 30.00, BTN posts ante 30.00, SB posts ante 30.00, BB posts ante 30.00, Hero posts ante 30.00, UTG+1 posts ante 30.00, SB posts SB 150.00, BB posts BB 300.00

    Pre Flop: (720.00) Hero has J J

    Hero raises to 640.00, UTG+1 raises to 1,776.00,
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    Old 03-04-2012, 11:58 PM   #34
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

    14 left in 162 sunday 6max

    no reads on villain (no hands in my pretty big database so assume he's a random from Spain), just got moved to this table and he played 4 hands out of 5 (no sd)

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    NL Holdem $5,000(BB) Poker Stars
    SB ($402,337)
    Hero ($237,381)
    UTG ($507,866)
    CO ($137,178)
    BTN ($557,017)

    Dealt to Hero Q K

    UTG raises to $10,500, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $5,500

    FLOP ($26,625) 5 2 7

    Hero checks, UTG checks

    TURN ($26,625) 5 2 7 K

    Hero bets $10,000, UTG raises to $30,000, Hero calls $20,000

    RIVER ($86,625) 5 2 7 K Q

    Hero checks, UTG bets $53,707, Hero raises to (190k behind)



    what do you think is best option
    a) shove
    b) r/c
    c) r/f

    feel like its 117k/f

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    Old 03-05-2012, 12:33 AM   #35
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    ^That's insane to r/f to a random imo. I would just shove and hope to get a call from AK.
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    Old 03-05-2012, 12:40 AM   #36
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    decided to make it 147k cause I really wanted to get called and called his shove (was getting like 9-1)
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    Old 03-05-2012, 10:07 AM   #37
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    I'd just call
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    Old 03-05-2012, 11:52 AM   #38
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    Re: ***HSMTT QUICK CHECKUP THREAD***

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    I'd just call
    agreed. flop checkback and then sizing it so big on turn/river makes him seem pretty polarized, and i don't think we beat any of the good hands in his polar range. i don't think he'd call a raise with worse very often at all
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    Old 03-05-2012, 12:17 PM   #39
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    gave him 1/3 of aces combos (that he might checkback otf from time to time I suppose) and it gives me 52% equity (against hands that might call a raise) so since I don't expect him to 3bet bluff otr maybe x/cib/fold is an option


    Board: 5h 2d 7c Kd Qh
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 47.826% 39.13% 08.70% 63 14.00 { AcAh, AcAs, 77, 55, 22, AKs, KQs, AKo, KQo }
    Hand 1: 52.174% 43.48% 08.70% 70 14.00 { KQo }

    and I didnt include hands like K7s/K5s, so I figured out cib/fold is prolly going to be the best

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    Old 03-05-2012, 01:22 PM   #40
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    Merge highroller Maximus series. $215 BI.

    He has 3bet my EP open 1 round earlier and I folded. He's only been at table for 13 hands and he's 31/31 w 2/6 3bets. iirc his last 3bet might have been closer to 2.5x than this one.

    Get it in?

    Merge - $0+$0.00|<> NL - Holdem - 9 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    MP: 6,428.00
    MP+1: 20,090.00
    LP: 12,005.00
    CO: 12,558.00
    BTN: 15,320.00
    SB: 40,729.00
    BB: 19,353.00
    Hero (UTG): 5,611.00
    UTG+1: 15,724.00

    MP posts ante 30.00, MP+1 posts ante 30.00, LP posts ante 30.00, CO posts ante 30.00, BTN posts ante 30.00, SB posts ante 30.00, BB posts ante 30.00, Hero posts ante 30.00, UTG+1 posts ante 30.00, SB posts SB 150.00, BB posts BB 300.00

    Pre Flop: (720.00) Hero has J J

    Hero raises to 640.00, UTG+1 raises to 1,776.00,
    Need a quick checkup on this one.
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    Old 03-05-2012, 01:35 PM   #41
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    shove, win a race
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    Old 03-05-2012, 01:36 PM   #42
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    you have to include K7, Q7etc way more likely than AK, KQ imo.

    his sizing in generell + adding a 707 to the even 50k makes me paraonid( think people a more polarized when they change betting patterns , id flat river.
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    Old 03-05-2012, 01:52 PM   #43
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    Need a quick checkup on this one.
    Gotta get it in.
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    Old 03-05-2012, 03:16 PM   #44
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    With those reads I would shove river with KQ.
    I wouldn't fold pocket jacks, but I might if I had like 12k.
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    Old 03-05-2012, 06:25 PM   #45
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    Fold the JJ. Might fold the river w the KQ, def not raising.
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    Old 03-05-2012, 07:21 PM   #46
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    [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $20 Buy-in (800/1,600 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12072142

    Hero (BB): 25,742 (16.1 bb)
    UTG+2: 79,891 (49.9 bb)
    MP1: 53,501 (33.4 bb)
    MP2: 16,631 (10.4 bb)
    MP3: 58,922 (36.8 bb)
    CO: 68,265 (42.7 bb)
    BTN: 32,943 (20.6 bb)
    SB: 12,975 (8.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K J
    5 folds, BTN raises to 32,793 and is all-in, SB folds, Hero has 23,992 left

    BTN is a reg seems solid
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    Old 03-05-2012, 07:23 PM   #47
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    I'd call.
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    Old 03-05-2012, 07:25 PM   #48
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    I might fold the turn with KQ and I might check the turn with KQ as well, folding the river is insanity with what we know about villain and given that it's 5 handed.
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    Old 03-05-2012, 07:26 PM   #49
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    Shover's a reg 15/13 over a 150 hands.

    [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12072152

    SB: 5,057 (42.1 bb)
    BB: 5,117 (42.6 bb)
    UTG+1: 4,040 (33.7 bb)
    UTG+2: 3,570 (29.8 bb)
    MP1: 1,183 (9.9 bb)
    MP2: 2,425 (20.2 bb)
    Hero (MP3): 2,735 (22.8 bb)
    CO: 1,834 (15.3 bb)
    BTN: 4,039 (33.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7 7
    2 folds, MP1 raises to 1,168 and is all-in, MP2 folds, Hero raises to 2,720 and is all-in,

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    Old 03-05-2012, 07:33 PM   #50
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    Tourney is the millball. Villain is a competent reg running like 20/17/7 over a decent sample. We've been in a 3b pot or two but no one has really gotten out of line. I rly ***** hate calling turn/folding river but thought it might have merit with the board texture. So do we wanna fold turn? Ever contemplate a call once weve gotten to the riv?



      [hand_history]Poker Stars, $200 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 60 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12072102

      UTG+2: 8,562 (14.3 bb)
      Hero (MP1): 42,686 (71.1 bb)
      MP2: 22,482 (37.5 bb)
      MP3: 52,832 (88.1 bb)
      CO: 8,600 (14.3 bb)
      BTN: 18,559 (30.9 bb)
      SB: 27,331 (45.6 bb)
      BB: 25,691 (42.8 bb)
      UTG+1: 34,740 (57.9 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K J
      2 folds, Hero raises to 1,200, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 1,200, 4 folds

      Flop: (3,840) 7 2 J (2 players)
      Hero bets 1,267, MP3 raises to 3,125, Hero calls 1,858

      Turn: (10,090) 8 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 bets 6,600, Hero calls 6,600

      River: (23,290) 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 bets 32,400,

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