Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
I don't see problems with flatting. The only situation that troubles me is when BB follows by shoving, and OR calls. When this happens I start trying to talk myself into believing OR is calling with big-ace hands in order to justify shoving over top of him and making a HUGE pot with my 44 due to fantasies about having an edge that likely isn't there. =)
TBH though, more often than not either the BB folds/calls and we can comfortably set mine given stacks, or BB shoves and OR folds which we can then call profitably. Is this logic off?
BB will probably be shoving here some reasonably high % of the time, with the overlay of our call giving him an attractive price on his shove. We can never continue when he shoves if the OR does anything
If BB folds, we have a barely acceptable, though still not very attractive setmine situation.
BB calling is the best result for us, but it should happen rarely if he is competent, and even when it does, him being so short relative to the size of the pot hurts our implied odds