My image is tighter than what I usually play because I have been so incredibly card and spot dead all day. Table is a dream table except for Olivier Busquet to my left (3 seats off).
Blinds 250-500 with 50 ante

Folds to me in the hijack I have 21,000 and I raise to 1,200 with KK
Cutoff (huge fish who said he if rebuys twice its still less than what he losses at blackjack weekly) calls and he has about 27,000
Button calls and he is a bit spewy pre and post flop and technically pretty bad and he has about 40,000
Olivier Busquet on SB makes it 4,500 and he has about 52,000

This is clearly a great a squeeze spot. So I strongly consider flatting.
But I decide that he is never folding JJ, QQ AK, and maybe even AQs 10-10 because its a reentry then a shove is more profitable. It would be pretty bad if I flat and don't get max value vs QQ or JJ or even AK on many board textures.

So I shove and he insta folds and that's that...

My question to you guys, in that spot to keep all of his squeeze's in range do you prefer flatting?

Also, and this is the real question that I have for the forum...
If I don't have a value hand like KK, how light can I 4bet shove profitably??
I think that because it's such a good squeeze spot, that 4bet range is going to be pretty wide. Let me know what ranges you would 4bet shove.
When you answer, please keep in mind that I was on my first and only bullet.
Thanks guys I appreciate your thoughts in advance

I would prefer flatting if we didn't have CO and button behind as we'd have position and would get at least 1 more bet out of V. Shove is good here though. He def isn't folding AQ/10s.

As far as our non-value range for a 3B shove...

I think something like 99+, AJ+,KQs

Super easy like 9.1k

He would fold even faster


You're right OP, good squeezing spot for him so shoving is the play. Jam your whole opening range, make a frustrated face after he snap folds.

Can you elaborate as to why you would take that route?
I would like your suggestion if my image was looser and I had more chips. But with my image and stack size, he is good enough to know that if I make it 9.1k he does not have any fold equity. It also looks stronger than shoving, which could take out some hands out of his (go with it) range.

So, I was definitely thinking that my 4B range could be close to my opening range. It could sound spewy, but with the obvious squeeze spot and my image... I think its ok. I will have to run numbers on flopzilla and see what that looks like.

Nah you can/should have a 4b/f range at this stack depth
Plus you may as well give him room to spew/level himself Into clicking a button
He also will peel the small sizing a pretty decent amount

Are you misreading hero's stack size? He started hand with 21k. 4-betting to 9k and facing an allin gives hero over 3:1 odds to call.

Ebet, I have a lot of respect for your insight. Having said that, at my stack depth, that is some pretty sick leveling in live play. Since I am not a big name and he has never played with me before I doubt that he would consider that I am weak if I click back to 9.1k

Ran some numbers... If I 4B shove and he is only calling me with this range:
AA-99,AKs-AQs,AKo-AQo
If my non value 4B range is:
88-22,AJs-A2s,QJs-Q9s,JTs
With the dead money of the two callers (Button and CU) and the blinds and antes and all of his squeeze combos (kind of had to play with different combos on this one)
My 4B jam of the range above in green is definitely profitable

Oh I thought he had 29k. Meh.

i tank for awhile then 9600, seems pretty easy imo

lol, so you are making half stack 4bet for what purpose exactly?