Ive been very aggressive and won some flips and SDs to build my stack. Ive picked up a decent % and recently 3b/f'en vs villain who open 20BBs EP and I 3b/f vs his 19BB stack.

He is a high stake cash game player, his mtt skills I have no idea.

At this stage there are about 15 or 16 players left.

How do we approach this flop the best way? What do you prefer and why?


No Limit Holdem Tournament
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (UTG) (3,012k) 60bb
UTG+1 (3,216k) 64bb
MP1 (639k) 13bb
MP2 (2,465k) 49bb
CO (1,346k) 27bb
BTN (735k) 15bb
SB (2,395k) 48bb
BB (3,857k) 77bb

Blinds: 25k/50k Ante 5k

Pre-Flop: (75k, 8 players) Hero is UTG J 9
Hero raises to 100k, 3 folds, CO calls 100k, 3 folds

Flop: J 9 Q (240k, 2 players)
Hero (2912253)?

From your description it sounds like you have a very aggressive image which would make me very inclined to fold pre UTG with J9o.

With that being said I think I would probably just bet/shove this flop given the dynamic you have described against this particular villain. You have blockers against two sets and villain should be more inclined to flat KK/AA and medium strength hands (88/99-JJ, AQ, KQs) rather than QQ.

If the flop were less co-ordinated I would take a different approach but there are so many turn cards that will make proceeding extremely difficult especially considering we are OOP. The thing that really sucks is its hard to say if villain would r/c any worse hands facing your open/c-bet/3b shove on this flop.

looks like an easy 145k/good luck vs villain that started with 27bb

Yessir

I totally misread something, will redo my post

This is very assumption dependent; mine will be different to yours. For example, is he 3b JJ+ pre? Does he flat 98s pre? And so on.

Against a reasonable flop stacking range i assigned the villain you have 36% equity. This is the best case scenario and assumes he stacks hands which he might be inclined to float with (QTs is an example).

This stacking range makes up 31% of his preflop calling range. I feel this allows him to play perfectly when we only make it half pot and we get "coolered" when we choose to stack the flop. I think it's safe to say he wont be choosing this kind of board to bluff raise.

I think betting is mandatory as checking planning to raise allows him to realise much equity if he chooses to check back. I think we need to make it way higher than 1/2 pot as suggested. I would make it around 230k so that he (shouldnt) wont be floating with hands that leave us in gross spots on the turn. If he raises our cbet... do you wanna gamble?

When in the world did top pair + OESD become a float?

Preflop is pretty bad for most players at most tables.

Is flop that obvious a cbet? Possible to c/r or c/c too.

Yeah, I also thought checking might be better since this flop he will bet such a high % of the time when checked too. Including with his semi-bluffs.

I think check/shove (its big but probably best, esp in this tournament at this stage) is the best and might get him to fold his Tx hands (most likely with a pair or get him to call his weaker hands like AA KK KQ that we are actually ahead off). All hands that will raise us to get it in will be commited and have a lot of equity against our hand + those hands def. bet the flop.

Instead, result oriented. I x/r he called. turn 8 i fcked up he had ATo I lost a big pot. Which makes me think check-raise <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< check/shove, because he will peel so much with a lot of equity and a ton of ****ty turns, us being OOP and playing a very big pot with shallow stacks.

Also, he won't likely spew shove a draw with position, so when he shoves our eq. shouldnt be all that good. Wheras if we shove he might/probably call(s) lighter then when we x/r/c

bet flop and do not fold to a raise
dont like pre :/

I think c/r is better. You could do the same with a combo draw. Why does everyone want to cbet?

Results oriented you didn't push. However, think CRAI may be better as represents a draw.

yeah i was wondering the same thing lol. I think i go for c/r as well, that being said not sure how weak a range this guy is bet/calling here

Villain definitely doesn't have a weak range here, but we're still well ahead of it, and when checked to, he will be betting this flop with almost everything he called with preflop IMO.
Check raising assures we get the money in on the flop rather than having him flat our cbet and being in a really awkward spot on a lot of turns.