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Old 05-19-2017, 07:50 PM   #1
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facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

So its late in a winamax 100 euros 8max.
Villain has good results according to his scope.
We are both deep and bubble is approaching. Villain is not 3 betting a lot (5% on a 100 hand sample)

Hand 1
i think we have to fold OTT vs a solid villain? The spr is bad to go broke..

    Winamax, $90 Buy-in (3,000/6,000 blinds, 800 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37729510

    MP2: 318,904 (53.2 bb)
    Hero (MP3): 299,820 (50 bb)
    CO: 52,351 (8.7 bb)
    BTN: 68,911 (11.5 bb)
    SB: 103,825 (17.3 bb)
    BB: 264,682 (44.1 bb)
    UTG+2: 136,780 (22.8 bb)
    MP1: 308,290 (51.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K A
    3 folds, Hero raises to 13,200, 3 folds, BB calls 7,200

    Flop: (35,800) A 5 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets 13,604, BB raises to 36,655, Hero calls 23,051

    Turn: (109,110) 9 (2 players)
    BB bets 62,255, Hero folds

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    Hand2
    I would normally fold pre bc i dont have the odds to setmine. Due to previous action i elected to call for several reasons, mainly influenced by hand 1. Seems weak to fold each time vs his agressivity but my play seems atrocious.
    Due to historic, would u just fold pre or when?


      Winamax, $90 Buy-in (4,000/8,000 blinds, 1,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37729617

      Hero (MP2): 391,445 (48.9 bb)
      CO: 67,502 (8.4 bb)
      SB: 37,705 (4.7 bb)
      BB: 369,959 (46.2 bb)
      UTG: 120,180 (15 bb)
      MP1: 249,468 (31.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 2 2
      2 folds, Hero raises to 17,600, 2 folds, BB raises to 57,655, Hero calls 40,055

      Flop: (125,310) 6 6 T (2 players)
      BB bets 55,555, Hero calls 55,555

      Turn: (236,420) 4 (2 players)
      BB bets 92,222, Hero calls 92,222

      River: (420,864) 3 (2 players)
      BB bets 163,527 and is all-in, Hero calls 163,527

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      Old 05-19-2017, 11:48 PM   #2
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      Re: facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

      You can't be serious
      Ill give my 2c instead of pure trolling tho. Hand 1 just 4b and call it off
      As played you can't fold turn its a massive leak

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      Old 05-20-2017, 04:10 AM   #3
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      Re: facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

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      You can't be serious
      Ill give my 2c instead of pure trolling tho. Hand 1 just 4b and call it off
      As played you can't fold turn its a massive leak

      unfortunatly i m not trolling.

      H1 without info and knowing is a very good reg he ll never take this line with Ax IMO. He has 2 pairs, a set or a straight and sometimes somes FD. With this sizing he is just preparing to go all in river.

      I think i m too deep to stack off with TPTK. Obv i could 4bet pre but he flatted.

      I would not play H2 and post it if H1 didnt occur the previous orbit.
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      Old 05-20-2017, 07:21 AM   #4
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      Re: facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

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      Obv i could 4bet pre but he flatted.
      ??? He meant 3b otf go with it.
      Calling turn and playing some rivers H1.
      H2 I'm pretty sure you know you done f'd up.
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      Old 05-20-2017, 11:44 AM   #5
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      Re: facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

      Why would we 3b the flop in hand 1. Just so he folds his bluffs?
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      Old 05-20-2017, 12:26 PM   #6
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      Re: facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

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      Why would we 3b the flop in hand 1. Just so he folds his bluffs?
      Yeh, just call the flop in hand 1, but gii eventually. Board is dry. No point in 3 betting.
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      Old 05-20-2017, 06:05 PM   #7
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      Re: facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

      3b otf is pretty dumb
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      Old 05-20-2017, 06:06 PM   #8
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      And In b4 didn't wanna Gii pre because the rest of the field was pretty soft
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      Old 05-20-2017, 07:19 PM   #9
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      Re: facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

      so are you high or what
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      Old 05-20-2017, 09:35 PM   #10
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      Re: facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

      My bad, thought H1 was single raised pot pre.
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      Old 05-20-2017, 10:06 PM   #11
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      So I just don't get how you wanna call down w 22 in hand 2 but fold ott in hand 1
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      Old 05-21-2017, 12:59 AM   #12
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      Re: facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

      Maybe a satire of players on Frenchy site who won't fold if they think they have been bluffed.
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      Old 05-22-2017, 09:34 AM   #13
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      Re: facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

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      I would not play H2 and post it if H1 didnt occur the previous orbit.
      Did you try to adjust your entire stratgy because of one hand you just played? And a hand that didnt even go to showdown! That's highly not tecommended
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      Old 05-22-2017, 05:44 PM   #14
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      Re: facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

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      I would not play H2 and post it if H1 didnt occur the previous orbit.
      Do you think villain is less or more likely to bluff you soon after he's shown aggression?
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      Old 05-23-2017, 04:42 PM   #15
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      Re: facing aggressivity twice from BB cheapleader

      Thank you for your comments.

      H1 : first i d happily 4bet pre..OTF indeed i call to keep his bluffs. However by doing this we let him realise his equity, FD, 67,...So i dont know what is the best.
      For people saying calling OTF, do you all shove this turn?

      H2 : thanks to johnyarmless and Soepgroente for your helpful comments. Best thing to do is to fold vs his 3 bet i guess. But i m quite sure good regs can implement an exploitative strategy (such a tendancy to fold vs agression) after a few hands
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