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04-06-2017 , 03:09 AM
Beginning level of day 3 blinds 1500/3000 ante 500. 112 people left 103 pay.
My stack: 115000
UTG+1: 135000
Villain: 140000

UTG+1 opens to 7000 I'm in mid position with 10♠️J♠️ and call, folds around to SB who calls. 3 in the hand. Flop comes 9♠️K♠️3♣️. Villain checks, UTG checks and I bet 15000. Villain calls and UTG folds. Turn comes 8♠️ I bet 30000 and villain goes all in and I call. Villain flips over A♠️3♠️ River doesn't bring anything and I bust out in 111.

My question is do I ever fold this pre flop? Do I 3bet/fold? I had enough to probably get ITM by folding the majority of my normal calling range. Just making the money would have been huge since I won this seat through a $10 spin and go. I just don't know if I played the hand right considering the circumstances. Thanks for any input

Last edited by onehandatatime; 04-06-2017 at 03:17 AM.
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04-06-2017 , 03:44 AM
103-75 paid $8k
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04-06-2017 , 04:32 AM
Nothing wrong here. You got unlucky,you might have considered folding to the all in if the min cash meant a lot to you as you are usually beat in this spot and can't hope for the straight flush river to bail you out.
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04-06-2017 , 11:00 AM
If a mincash is sufficiently important to you, consider staying away from previously-raised pots and raise only as first-in. You're of course giving up EV in doing so, but you're trading that for lower variance.
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04-06-2017 , 12:36 PM
nh
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04-06-2017 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
nh
Ty
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04-06-2017 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
If a mincash is sufficiently important to you, consider staying away from previously-raised pots and raise only as first-in. You're of course giving up EV in doing so, but you're trading that for lower variance.
The money did mean a lot but I was playing for more than $8k.
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04-06-2017 , 08:18 PM
Being R/O-ed you should first consider your flop play and only then your preflop options.

Its just dumb to consider 3b/f pre to avoid bb peeling A3s ))

$10 shot certainly worth making min-cash and feel good about it, so at this stage you could fold pre at some aggro tables and check back flop for deception, pot control.
You arent printing betting the flop after all 3way.

Purely CeV you certainly played it fine.
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04-06-2017 , 08:33 PM
What range do u guys give him ott? I guess most of his combos of 99 and 33 v raises otf and if not i hardly doubt that villian xrai it ott, also it's hard for him to have worse flushes besides 56ss or 67ss and not every player overcalls those pre from sb.
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04-07-2017 , 04:04 PM
Mentioning that you are in for 10$ and the 8k sounds like its a significant cash for you I think not being involved in the hand at all would have been best. As played if you are folding turn after he jams on you, you still leave yourself with 63k behind around 20bb. This amount should be okay to min cash i would say. As others stated if the min cash is irrelevant to you than i think you played it completely fine.
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04-09-2017 , 11:09 AM
I would fold pre near bubble. Check turn to 1) minimise losses vs bigger flushes on bubble, 2) protect ur range, and induce some SD bluffs otr
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04-09-2017 , 12:10 PM
Any appetite here for three-betting pre?
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04-09-2017 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Any appetite here for three-betting pre?
It's what I was thinking. The table was pretty active though
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04-10-2017 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by onehandatatime
IThe table was pretty active though

Another reason to fold pre.



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04-17-2017 , 07:34 AM
3b or fold pre. Flatting is pretty bad
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04-18-2017 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
3b or fold pre. Flatting is pretty bad
I don't think flatting is all that bad. The hand plays pretty well post and multiway
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04-18-2017 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
3b or fold pre. Flatting is pretty bad
this is a pretty bad post
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04-28-2017 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
this is a pretty bad post
Do you even win at poker?
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04-28-2017 , 12:06 PM
not sure why flatting 10Js is bad here? Of course because of the circumstances folding is probably the best play, but I would say fold>flat>3bet
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04-28-2017 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Do you even win at poker?
what do you think
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04-29-2017 , 03:00 AM
Was needling you and being sarcastic. Obv you do based off your posts.

Cold-calling here esp at a tough table I guarantee is -EV. Unless youbplay in super soft, passive, and fishy games, there is zero chance this is a +Ev call pre
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04-29-2017 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by onehandatatime
not sure why flatting 10Js is bad here? Of course because of the circumstances folding is probably the best play, but I would say fold>flat>3bet
You get squeezed a lot if there are good aggro regs behind, J high isnt really good to play multiway like people think it is, you arent anywhere near closing the action, you dont have ultimate position. There really is just no good reason to be calling. When you flop a J or 10, you never have the best kicker either. At least if you 3-bet, you get better Jx/10x to fold pre.

Imo fold>3-bet>>>>>>>>>flat

JTs is one of the best 3-bet bluffs pre you can have
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04-29-2017 , 05:31 AM
What is our image at the table? How many players are at the table and what position are you in exactly? Any reads on the opener or the players behind you and what are their stack sizes? If I'm playing it I'm only ever 3 betting but whether I 3b or fold is very dependent on how wide I perceive opener's range to be and the likelihood of anyone behind me to 4 bet with a less than premium hand and whether they have reshove stacks (15-25bb).
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04-29-2017 , 10:51 AM
I don't like any of this hand. Bubbling with 40bb is terrible. I'd prefer a flop check.
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04-29-2017 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
You get squeezed a lot if there are good aggro regs behind, J high isnt really good to play multiway like people think it is, you arent anywhere near closing the action, you dont have ultimate position. There really is just no good reason to be calling. When you flop a J or 10, you never have the best kicker either. At least if you 3-bet, you get better Jx/10x to fold pre.

Imo fold>3-bet>>>>>>>>>flat

JTs is one of the best 3-bet bluffs pre you can have

I think all that is largely correct, but here, hero just got flat called behind. If you knew you weren't going to get raised behind, does your view change?

I understand you can challenge my premise, but I'm not interested in that discussion at the moment.
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