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Old 05-14-2017, 12:28 PM   #1
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Calculating m theory with anties

What is the most simple way to calculate your M in tournaments with anties?

Calculating M is obv very basic, but I've not found anything incorporating anties. (I know true M is related to level times)
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Old 05-14-2017, 11:20 PM   #2
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Re: Calculating m theory with anties

it does not have to do with level times. the total pot when everyone has anted and posted their blinds = 1m
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Old 05-15-2017, 12:17 AM   #3
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it does not have to do with level times. the total pot when everyone has anted and posted their blinds = 1m
It does have to do with level times. M theory is how many orbits you can make with your current stack. If there's only time for one more orbits at the current level and the next level doubles blinds, if you're not incorporating that into your calculation then you're way off....I do think I can figure it out though. 1m = sb/bb per orbit + ante x # of players at table......thanks.
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:11 PM   #4
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Re: Calculating m theory with anties

Lol m. What decade are we in?
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:40 PM   #5
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Lol m. What decade are we in?
So whats the current strategy of modern poker in reference to M?
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:50 PM   #6
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Re: Calculating m theory with anties

Regarding TRUE M. Also, Ccakma, This book discussing isn't that old....but yeah, I guess you think that tournament strategy has been revolutionized in the the past few years.....lol

https://books.google.com/books?id=1R...levant&f=false
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Old 05-15-2017, 07:45 PM   #7
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So whats the current strategy of modern poker in reference to M?
To not use it
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Old 05-15-2017, 09:29 PM   #8
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To not use it
Guess you're smarter than Harrington. What's the name of your book? RIP M (and Doyle)....never forget.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:09 PM   #9
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Lol m. What decade are we in?
There may not be an emphasis on it in the current era, but it IS a useful tool. And anyone not using ALL tools at their disposal is the one to be laughed at.

As to the OP's question, the estimated number of hands remaining in a level is going to be basically the same regardless of whether there are antes or not. Simply incorporate the ante into that calculation because that is chips coming out of your stack whether you play the hand or not...
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:24 AM   #10
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Re: Calculating m theory with anties

So wouldn't M be the amount of antes you pay in an orbit + SB + BB?
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:04 AM   #11
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So wouldn't M be the amount of antes you pay in an orbit + SB + BB?
Based upon my understanding, yes. And whether it is wholly correct or not, it IS a number I keep in my mind for what each orbit is costing me and IS a factor in some (not all) decisions if/when I am getting near or are already below average stack size.
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Old 05-22-2017, 09:25 PM   #12
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Re: Calculating m theory with anties

I've never understood why people prefer counting big blinds when that does not take into account antes and ante ratios. I got all mah zones memsmorized
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