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Busted out of 100k for min cash. What's wrong with my last hand Busted out of 100k for min cash. What's wrong with my last hand

05-05-2016 , 01:53 PM
Blinds 2500/1500 / 500ante

Avg stack 190k

My stack 165k

9 handed

Fold , fold , open to 8k, action on me next with 77. I shoved got called by Btn who was chip leader at table with 400k ish.original opener folds.

Is my shove a bad play here?

What should I be doing in spots like these with middle pairs like 6 through 9?

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05-05-2016 , 02:53 PM
Was this a 100k hi roller buy in??? Are you sure the big blind wasn't 5,000. Ripping 60 BBS with pocket 77s is a turrible play.
05-05-2016 , 02:54 PM
Shoving 65BB over a 2,5bb open seems a bad idea...
05-05-2016 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Cardshark23
Was this a 100k hi roller buy in??? Are you sure the big blind wasn't 5,000. Ripping 60 BBS with pocket 77s is a turrible play.
Ur right. It was 5k/2.5k 500 ante. 45min levels. It was a local 100k gtd with 250 buy-in.

It actually might have been 3k/6k. Im gonna check right now. I remember it was the level before 2nd break.

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05-05-2016 , 04:17 PM
It was 1k/4k/8k

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05-05-2016 , 04:21 PM
Only thing I remember is thinking to myself "I have about 20bbs and I'm shortest stack at the tablr" and just insta shoved. Should I be folding 7s and worse in this spot or is it an okay spot to shove? Do I ever fold 8s or 9s here?

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05-05-2016 , 04:22 PM
Or 8k/16k?
05-05-2016 , 04:27 PM
Na it was 1k 4k 8k.

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05-05-2016 , 04:29 PM
Sry I have bad memory. But I remember posting on the forum asking what to do with mid pairs with 20 to 25bbs in Mp1 right after I busted



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05-05-2016 , 05:47 PM
Well what hands are you ever flatting here ? Seems like a standard jam.
05-05-2016 , 07:07 PM
Blinds may have been 3750/9500
05-05-2016 , 09:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cicakman
Blinds may have been 3750/9500
I never say lol. But this did the trick

Seriously though, I could make case for all 3 moves depending on tournament dynamics, your image, and their history. You didn't give much to go on here. Like now that u think BB is 8k, and u say the open was 8k, was it a limp? If so what was their stack? Don't mind a 20bb shove with 77 in a vacuum, but not ideal in many cases
05-06-2016 , 02:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nota
Only thing I remember is thinking to myself "I have about 20bbs and I'm shortest stack at the table
Sounds like u covered all the bases/considered all the relevant variables etc...blinds/schminds...not really relevant here imo
05-06-2016 , 03:49 PM
My memory sucks but it was for sure 4k/8k and original opener has about 200k. He was pretty tight and also made some big lay downs when we were on the bubble. He folded queens on Btn when he got 3bet from bb pre.

His original open was prob around 20k bc the standard raise was 2.1 to 2.5x for the entire tourney. Like I said, I don't remember the exact numbers. I just remember I had around 20bbs and there was a raise in front of me. I didn't like the option of calling from so so I shoved. Probably a bad move now I think.

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05-06-2016 , 05:54 PM
usually you can jam 77 vs an open like this up to the 7000/3000/55 level, but when it gets to 5000/3000/1000 Id fold
05-06-2016 , 11:00 PM
Be aware of the blind levels first. Very basic part of poker. And how many BBs u have. Also, I recommend u playing with icmizer with different opening ranges, or grinding some lower stake online MTTs b4 u play higher stake live MTTs, like 100 games of <micro stake MTTs have much higher "experience" value comparing to live $250 MTTs. Master ur under 20bb game then u would have a much higher EV in the next $250 MTT u play. It saves the tuition costs. Seems like an ez fold against a tight opener
05-06-2016 , 11:01 PM
Ayo, wtf are the blinds?
05-07-2016 , 02:55 AM
Yo id shove at 25k/13.5k imo
05-10-2016 , 09:15 PM
I can't see why you would think jamming with 77 there is a good idea. So you're trying to steal 20k with a Squeeze which is 1/8th your stack. In theory its not too bad but when we break it down a player is going to have pocket 77s beat there preflop 23% of the time. When jamming pre you really want that number to be around 15% or lower to feel safe justifing that move. You only get called by better pocket pairs and then are 80-20dog and you risk busting out for only a 10% +EV over AK,AQ,AJs which will always call if they are at 400k chips.

Nothing wrong with doubling but 77s are just too lite here especially since you can flat 8k or pop it to 18k or 21.5k and see what happens, set mine, if you miss no biggie maybe still have drawing outs and if you hit potentially a safe double up. And if you hit and no action you still get 20K in chips which was your intended goal preflop worstcase scenario.
05-10-2016 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
Blinds may have been 3750/9500
clear fold pre antes
05-10-2016 , 11:43 PM
Just delete this ****. If the op can't figure out what level/blinds it is in his first three posts he can try again later.
05-17-2016 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
Blinds may have been 3750/9500
i dont think i have laughed so hard in my life

      
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