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Old 06-24-2012, 09:17 PM   #1
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Bovada WSOP Mega ($500) nut flush draw 94BB effective

Reads are there are a lot of limp/callers in the house, and villain on the button loves to iso. I know I can/should fold preflop, and usually would, except in dynamics like this (deep where everyone is going to call pf behind me). 8 seats given away--but we are not even close to sniffing it at the 40/80 blind level--we are one of the early chip leaders


UTG, UTG+2, UTG+3 (t3005) all call 80, button (t7515) raises to 320. Hero (t9505) calls in SB with (A5hh). BB folds, all limpers call.

Flop Qh2h6c

Hero checks (??), check, check, UTG+3 makes it 660, OR on button makes it 1560, Hero?



Two questions:

1.)How do you attack flop? Should we be check/calling, check /raising assuming we will initially just be facing a button c-bet (94 bb deep eff)--but having a few guys behind? c/c? c/r, lead?

2.)What to do on flop after this action, knowing that we don't have fold equity vs. raiser, and that we can't call cuz our hand face up and we can sandwiched in the crossfire?

Edit--actually a third question..

3.) Should we be playing this differently, this early, in a sattelite where 8 seats win vs. a regular MTT?
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:40 PM   #2
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Re: Bovada WSOP Mega ($500) nut flush draw 94BB effective

1. Check calling is best on the flop unless it goes something like first guy bets, everyone folds, (maybe another caller) and its back to you. Then a c/r bet the turn is probably strong enough to get him to fold the queen. Leading the flop is also another option if the table seems passive and you think its unlikely you would get raised.

2. After this action, I would fold. You said yourself you didnt think you had fold equity against the OR.

3. I would probably be folding this preflop regardless if its early in the sat or a mtt. Playing this oop against four other players is very tough unless you flop trips or a flush.
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Old 06-25-2012, 10:59 AM   #3
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Re: Bovada WSOP Mega ($500) nut flush draw 94BB effective

i dont think you should be calling flop, shove or fold...if you call it allows utg3 to repop...i usually think these spots come down to if you think you have an edge in the tournament....if you do, you generally dont wanna go broke with a draw and almost 100 BB's
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Old 06-25-2012, 05:29 PM   #4
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Re: Bovada WSOP Mega ($500) nut flush draw 94BB effective

Fold pre
Lead flop small
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:57 PM   #5
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Re: Bovada WSOP Mega ($500) nut flush draw 94BB effective

So lead/3b/call?
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:23 PM   #6
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Re: Bovada WSOP Mega ($500) nut flush draw 94BB effective

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So lead/3b/call?
Lead...and eval...with less opponentsI think it's a bet 3 bet and I guess it may still be as more customers make the gamble more valuable
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Old 06-26-2012, 05:14 AM   #7
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Re: Bovada WSOP Mega ($500) nut flush draw 94BB effective

If your pre call is an indication of your skill level(that's not a slight, just an observation and guess), I'd advise you to take lots of high variance spots like this where you're never in too bad of shape.

edit: I guess pre isn't as atrocious as I thought at first glance. meh.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:14 AM   #8
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Re: Bovada WSOP Mega ($500) nut flush draw 94BB effective

If you are going to call PF you should be willing to shove on this flop. You are repping a set or FD.
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Old 06-26-2012, 05:22 PM   #9
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Re: Bovada WSOP Mega ($500) nut flush draw 94BB effective

Preflop 3-bet must be option if button isolates wide. Hard to see 3-bet to ~1000 would not make profit.
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