Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: Awkward/Absurd WSOP ME Spot OOP.
Haven't read any responses itt so sorry if some of this is repetitive:
1. Talking at the table is absurdly effective if you're doing it right. I think berating is rarely right though (even when it feels so good), because it generally makes people play more aggressively, which is a bad thing. If the guy is playing this bad, you might intimidate him into playing better, which you don't really want to do.
Also, telling them that they're playing bad is usually not as good as having a good time at the table, joking with other players and lightheartedly getting everyone in on the gig to make fun of them. This humiliates them and makes them not want to be there and sort of makes them want to bust. You want to make fun of him and make it seem like other people are laughing at him, but you don't want to turn it into an ego battle between you and him because that will make him puff out his chest and try to "get" you.
I had a similar douchebaggy type of guy (actually wouldn't be totally shocked if it was the same player) berating people at my 2.5k table. First hand I sit down, I open TT utg, he flats bt, it comes Q97, I check/call, turn is a like a 6 or something, check/check, river is J, I check he bets like 1/3 pot and I instantly rip it for like 1.6x pot and he tank folds and I show the TT and he instantly rage tilts and starts berating me and I just smile and then ignore him and talk to some of the other guys at the table that are irritated by him and say stuff like, "bet I wouldn't have been able to bluff you there, right?" or "How come this guy keeps giving you advice but making bad folds?" etc. Other people have a couple chuckles at his expense over the next couple of hands and he just sits there silently raging.
Next orbit I defend my bb with K5hh, it comes 934 one heart, I check/call a small bet turn K, I check he bets small again and I just rip it for infinite chips and he snaps with A9 and busts. I strongly suspect that he knew he was beat but was so tilted and humiliated that he wanted to bust, so he just called it off knowing that he'd have a "bad beat" story to tell his friends after busting.
Table chatter after the hand was basically, "oh man I KNEW you had it there I was really hoping that guy would call, he was so rude to everyone." Also, I became the 'hero' of the table after busting the guy who was berating everyone, and so a bunch of the older players played really soft against me after that, which is another positive of being "the guy" that takes on the ******* at the table. This sounds like it was the same case for you, with you being friendly to the zynga guy etc.
2. I'd play ever hand of the KJJA hand the exact same way, fwiw. Doubt he's folding the K2 to you after the A comes and allows him to chop with KQ, KT etc, downbetting is good, barreling the ace is good, and giving up river is good. Overbetting river is good if you're certain he doesn't have enough heart to ever call with a K and/or might sometimes hero fold a J, but from your description I'd prefer to just give up and keep raping him in other spots, if you overbet and are wrong, it's bad news.
3. Raising Q63ss is obviously a perfect spot and great, like it a lot.
4. With regard to the hand in question it kinda sucks because YOU HAZ AK and you want to get this guy, but like you say, this particular flavor of retard probably isn't gonna rip it over your 3bet.
I kinda dont like this size becuase you have 1.5 psb behind and it's gonna be awkward. I feel like you can make it like 3.2k and he will flat a lot and you can kinda downbet/giveup if raised on these types of boards.
The whole point of AK is to try to stack weaker kings and aces, and it really feels like you can still get all his chips if you both hit an ace when you 3b to 3.2k and still maintain flexibility when you miss, so I feel like that's the better option. Given his flat with K2, I'd imagine hes gonna flat with a lot of kings and aces in this spot, and you can gobble a lot of chips when you hit your mutual card. You could also make it a bit bigger so that you have roughly a PSB behind after he calls, and then just rip lots of flops. I feel like leaving yourself with 1.5 psb is definitely the most awkward sizing, although that doesn't mean it's the worst.
Also, what did you start the hand with? like 20k? You could just rip it for 70bbs and watch him call with a "big ace." Idiots like this always talk themselves into making the wrong decision, I wouldn't be surprised to see him decide you have TT and call with AQ or AJ or something like that. Worst case scenario, you take down a small pot from the SB and get to keep playing the main event at a table full of idiots.