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A couple good players have told me I should flat pre. Seems really awkward oop with one definite maybe 2 other callers...but definitely tons more value if I hit a pair.

I actually think preflop is really interesting in the options given in the main event where chips/tourney life are so important. Can see merit for calling/reraising to any particular sizing >3800. And I think his range is pretty well defined...just being OOP with these stacks and no pair is awkward and while he obv is crushed by my TT+AK range or w/e....galfond bucks don't mean much in the one monstrous tourney a year

I still don't know whats optimal in this spot. I do know that as played I have to ck down flop though.

Don't like calling pre OOP, likely multiway. Don't think it's more value if you hit a pair, either. If you have him dominated and hit a pair, you're doubling up if you 3bet, probably not if you call.

100% 3ways 90% 4way. zynga was a limper

whats your sizing though todd?

sounds about right

4500

OP the best way to teach the douche a lesson(your whole intent basically) is to stay quiet and just take his chips. The worst is to be tilted by him, start talking trash to him, and then somehow play sub-optimally enough that you need to make a thread like this.

I mean, even if we disregard whether or not you played bad here(irrelevant imo), you practically made yourself a target at the table to the silent players who will decide that you're on tilt and therefore could do a million things to gain an advantage, eg. needle you, focus harder on your betting patterns to take your chips, get in pots with you while IP and do to you what you were trying to do to the douche, etc etc etc.

It's just not worth it. In a cash game, maybe, but not at the WSOP MAIN EVENT...

Or you end up badmouthing some random gang member and end up a statistic. I would never bad mouth people I do not know who they are for this very reason. There are people in this world which have no value for life and are unafraid of any consequences the law can apply.

About the hand:

The reputation you have at the table is going to allow you to profit huge on flops you hit. This isn't one of them.

Let's say villain has any pair >9, AJ+, KJ+. He raises 1400, you make it 5k w/AK out of position.

Flop:
1. You hit your ace - he pays you off on AK, AQ, AJ and if he hits any other reasonable pair. You go broke on a set because you built a pot you cant get away from.
2. You miss with all under/dry board: EX: 862r. Then what? You bet 5k into a pot of 12k you built. If he has any over pair he raises you fold.
3. You miss with wet board such as this one and put yourself in a bad situation.

As played, I guess I bet 6k and fold to his shove.

I hate building pots OOP with AK for this very reason. Expecially with your stack size. Unless he has been raising/3 betting every single hand, with the structure of the ME I would keep the pot smaller. Raising 3500 pre, he flats, you hit your ace and value him to the river. You miss, you take a smaller stab at it and take it down x% of time assuming villain is F of F.

Believe me, I'm in complete control of my table image and how people are adjusting and I definitely want certain players to view me as a "target"

Its worth it more in the WSOP ME than any other tourney. And I rarely berate people in cash games almost always friendly in those!

Thanks for looking out for me though!

I'm one of the people in this world who have no value for life. I've recieved death threats both serious and not so serious on and off the felt multiple times. Can't go through life scared

Thanks again for looking out for me though, I'll be just fine!

seems like a good villain to drop the entire hammer for 23k and let him snap his big ace

t('o't)

I considered that option too seriously...

For such a silly nutted hand vs a wide range and such a fishy idiotic opponent...sure is an interesting spot. Too bad there isn't any 10k chips or I could have considered an angle too

Shouldn't you 3bet pretty small ? Get the two limpers out , keep this douche in with his wide range and his attitude to you . Seems like he'll be looking to catch you out by calling down with marginal hands but in this situation usually he won't generally bluff postflop because he doesn't want to be humiliated if you call (proved by the way he played 88 here) . If you have a skill edge , that's kind of negated by a big 3bet because if he hits he's going to go with it and there's not much you can do . Yeh you get value preflop from making him call a bigger bet but if you're then oop on a bad flop and cbet he isn't going away and you've no room to outplay him . I'd prefer smaller 3bet and know that you can outplay this guy postflop with more room to do so plus you can still get stacks in if you hit as long as he has something to pay you off with.

Frogman3,

no.

Anyone with Tigers paraphernalia on deserves a good beration. Should have asked him how he mustered up the flight/main money. I reraise the AK smaller, fwiw, as I think it increases your fold equity on flops that you miss.