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AQs in Bovada 2 AQs in Bovada 2

01-26-2016 , 09:19 AM
Hi All,

The following hand is ITM (about 90 left) in the Bovada 100k gtd.

Hero (HJ): 60k on 1/2k 200ante

Folds to UTG+2 (38k) who raises to 4k. All folds to hero.

No information on Villian. The stacks behind us were medium sized and/or had us covered or close to it.

What do you do with AQs here?

A.) Fold
B.) Call
C.) Small 3 bet to 9 - 9.5k
D.) Go All In

I appreciate all thoughts and reasoning.
01-26-2016 , 10:56 AM
Unless I had some reason to believe someone will spazz behind us, likely going ~10k
01-26-2016 , 11:25 AM
d
01-26-2016 , 11:33 AM
I don't think you have much fold equity when the readless villain opens with under 20 BB's. Typically, people are opening tighter when they are that short.

I may just (b) take a flop in position, if the blinds have been passive.
01-26-2016 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
d
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depending on stacks behind me. other wise 3b/c is fine as well
01-26-2016 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pgcounty
I don't think you have much fold equity when the readless villain opens with under 20 BB's. Typically, people are opening tighter when they are that short.

I may just (b) take a flop in position, if the blinds have been passive.
We have AQs though. I'm 3betting.
01-26-2016 , 03:24 PM
Also, vs an 18BB stack, should our only 3B range be all in? If not, why not? I'm thinking balance reasons here
01-26-2016 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ebet33
other wise 3b/c is fine as well
can be, I've played a lot of MTTs against these Villains and it's very rarely good with these positions.

I just don't get 3b/c w/o info on the guy when jamming is like clearly +EV and clearly > flatting or folding.
01-26-2016 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by doyougnome
Also, vs an 18BB stack, should our only 3B range be all in? If not, why not? I'm thinking balance reasons here
no, you can 3b/c QQ + AKs, add a few bluffs, and 3b jam the rest of the value hands.

it's not very important on Bovada for obv. reasons to have your ranges balanced, especially preflop.
01-26-2016 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson

I just don't get 3b/c w/o info on the guy when jamming is like clearly +EV and clearly > flatting or folding.
Would be good to have stats on entire table obv, to know % of players behind, but I think 3b/c or fold gives a much more workable range than shipping 30bb from the HJ. I mean what else are we shipping AK, JJ-TT(99) ?
01-26-2016 , 03:50 PM
But, I dont really know Bovada, as you mentioned after
01-26-2016 , 04:05 PM
definitely not a or d, b or c depends on your/others images
01-26-2016 , 05:32 PM
Now for the results...

We ended up 3B to 9.5k and calling V's jam. He has 10s and we are off to the races.

If V's open range with this stack is 66+, KQ+, AJ+ we are almost 50%.

I think for your average unknown who is opening UTG +2 with 18BBs that would be a fairly standard range imo.

The question is how much of this range should we expect folds from to make the raise profitable, and are there hands that would call an all in but not a 3B (since we look stronger) and vice versa. To me, I can see a case for folding preflop or just calling in position, if the range described above was correct.
01-26-2016 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AmpeFund
Would be good to have stats on entire table obv, to know % of players behind, but I think 3b/c or fold gives a much more workable range than shipping 30bb from the HJ. I mean what else are we shipping AK, JJ-TT(99) ?
my bad dude, I ****ed up, yeah would never ship 30bbs when stacks behind cover us there. yeah 3b/c seems like it's gotta be the best option by a close margin, the thought just kind of makes me want to vomit given my experience deep in these big tourneys with ppl's preflop ranges. i'm quite surprised he showed up with TT there. if we have dynamic with him obv. it's a diff. scenario. but yeah, 3b/c.
01-26-2016 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by doyougnome
Now for the results...

We ended up 3B to 9.5k and calling V's jam. He has 10s and we are off to the races.

If V's open range with this stack is 66+, KQ+, AJ+ we are almost 50%.
I think he could/should 2x quite a few more combos, given stacks behind
01-26-2016 , 06:53 PM
seems wp by both tbh.
run better. flatting seems okish but he should be r/f quite alot here
01-26-2016 , 07:02 PM
lets see three OP

      
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