Hard Rock (Hollywood, FL) Deep Stack Series - $560 multi-flight

This small series features events with very generous, lengthy "Main Event" style structures for less money. For a Monday morning in May I am shocked at what a good table this is. Taking a look around the room, it's clear I got a good draw.

They started us with 40k in chips and levels are 40 minutes on day one (60 on day two). I've been here for about 5 hours and have reads on pretty much everyone. We are currently 7 handed.

Seat 1 (SB) - 70,000 (Local rec who recently rebought and was sent back to our same table. Passive, ABC who is sick of getting rivered every hand)

Seat 2 (BB) - 60,000 (Another local rec who just doubled seat 1, paying off horrifically)

Seat 3 - 40,000 (Local lag rec who was table captain for most of the day till he halved his 100k running bad, so playing more passively now)

Seat 4 - 40,000 (Recently sat)

Seat 5 - 60,000 (Me - Solid, thoughtful reg rarely (but not never) gets out of line, who up till 15 minutes ago had 80k but some bad stuff recently went down)

Seat 6 - Empty

Seat 7 - 30,000 (Bizarrely overplaying older rec, impossible to put on ranges, very loose and unpredictable, pays off light, prone to shove it in multiway for 5x with JT on QT5)

Seat 8 (Button) - 70,000 (Standard TAG whose valuebets are on the large side; having a tough time figuring him out otherwise)

Seat 9 - Empty

As you can imagine, many (most) pots here have been multiway. Lots of open limping, lots of cold calling of really big opens, lots of limp/calling of 3bets (but no limp/3betting yet), tons of very loose flop peels, all that jazz.. In short, this is still feeling like a (really good) cash game. Anything I've been showing down in multiway pots has been strong (for anyone paying attention lol).

Very recent history: In a hand that showed down, I flatted Seat 8's large EP open w/ AK from the SB, and on a board of KJT5J, I checked and called his usual substantially sized flop and turn bets. River got checked through and we see I lost the minimum vs AA.

An orbit goes by. In the previous hand I raised over seat 3's open limp, and check-folded a wet multiway flop (something I've been doing a lot today).

Blinds 300/600-100

Seat 3 open limps for 600
Seat 4 folds
I raise to 1,800 again, w/ A2
Seat 7 calls
Seat 8 folds
Seats 1, 2 and 3 call

Pot: 9,700
Flop: Q54

Three checks to me, I bet 5k.
Seat 7 calls, as do seats 1 and 3.

Pot: 29,700 (I have ~50k behind)
Turn: T

Two checks to me

Correction, the flop was Q43

Anyway, sorry for the long winded post. I wanted to get the details down while they were still fresh in my head. But I think I may have found a pretty serious leak. This hand with some other recent ones I posted seems to be establishing a pattern that I need a deeper understanding of.

I think your best option is to check and hope seat 7 checks behind. If he bets then you let pot odds dictate whether you call or not.

It is unlikely that seat 1 and 3 have better than a Queen or a draw. If you bet the turn, what would you bet, 10k? It will put you in an awkward spot if you are facing a shove. I guess you could bet the full pot and commit yourself (I think this should be done a small % of the time).

Please explain why it should only be done a small % of the time. This is what I did. The main motivation for the play was the pot size in relation to my remaining stack (50%), bolstered by the robust draw and likely lack of big hands. My instincts scream that I should be fighting hard for this pot since it's so important to my stack.

I tend to do this a lot (go nuts fighting for large multiway pots) - and your suggestion to do this a minority of the time might be confirming this suspected leak! Because this is pretty much my standard play here.

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Those hands you mentioned are different because you have showdown value. You might have the best hand in the first example. This hand was 3 bet preflop

I think you need to have the right table image to make a large committing bet on the turn. If you say seat 7 is calling off light and over values his hands, then will you get him to fold QJ? KQ? If he is overcalling the turn, what do you put him on? Minimum a Q and likely a draw.

If seat 3 has AQ, KQ and when it gets back to him, he is probably not going to fold. There is a chance he is on a draw as well, but your draw is better, so take the free card.

In these spots, my thinking goes usually, 3 other players in the hand and we started with 5. Someone has to have something.

Pre sizing is too small, esp given tbl descript, not sure what youre trying too accomplish.
Larger sizing likely changes this flop dynamic. As played, cant think of a range id be slamming 1/2 pots with, so would prob check and decide. Obv check turn

With such table dynamics, although less sexy, isn't there some merits to overlimping (and calling a raise) to have a better SPR?

Also, nice reads on seats 6 and 9.