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Old 09-01-2012, 07:52 PM   #1
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$82 wcoop sat -- calling off-range on bubble

Poker Stars $75+$7 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t100 - 6 players
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MP: t10415 M = 4.96
CO: t24402 M = 11.62
BTN: t50627 M = 24.11
Hero (SB): t12292 M = 5.85
BB: t16695 M = 7.95
UTG: t11569 M = 5.51

Pre Flop: (t2100) Hero is SB with 2 cards.
3 folds, BTN raises to t50527 all in, Hero needs to have X X to call.


payouts:

1st-4th $700
5th $320
6th $30

what's your calling range here? shover is a good reg.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:24 PM   #2
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Re: $82 wcoop sat -- calling off-range on bubble

Didnt do any math on it (which you could do yourself to get a result). But my feeling says something like: 99+ AJs+ AQ+
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:36 PM   #3
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Re: $82 wcoop sat -- calling off-range on bubble

QQ+, folding AK
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:02 PM   #4
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Re: $82 wcoop sat -- calling off-range on bubble

if you fold there are 3 people with ~equal stacks, so you will be at worst 66% to win a seat (round up to at least 70% because there's another guy with 16k and people are awful at sats). Using 70%, if he jams any 2 then call at widest 99+ (I would fold 99 and likely TT). Calling AKs is always bad.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:37 PM   #5
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Re: $82 wcoop sat -- calling off-range on bubble

wauw. surprised by that tbh. We are nowhere near a seat. Its far from being a lock and two players need to bust still.. I might agree that AJ AQ is a fold. But AK as well? 99 and TT folding?
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:31 PM   #6
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Re: $82 wcoop sat -- calling off-range on bubble

next pay jump is $300.. we aren't that far from a seat either.. obviously it's not a lock.
99 is usually a call before ak (more equity vs super wide range) but dunno if a reg "bothers" to jam atc with his stack in to 12/16bb stacks
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:49 PM   #7
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Re: $82 wcoop sat -- calling off-range on bubble

ah I misread, I thought 5 left sorry
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:51 AM   #8
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ah I misread, I thought 5 left sorry
so how would that affect our range in your opinion?
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:10 AM   #9
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so how would that affect our range in your opinion?
the one you gave sounds reasonable to me, though I'd weight it more towards pairs. If he's shoving any 2 then >65% hands are 77,AJs,AKo so something like that I guess.
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:59 AM   #10
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Re: $82 wcoop sat -- calling off-range on bubble

We can obviously ICM this, but at the table I would calculate like this: if we fold we got 4 equal stacks, one twice as big and one a lock for a seat.

Compared to winning a seat, place 6th 'loses' 670$ and 5th 'loses' 380$ for a total 'loss' of 1050$.
Estimating the 'loss' over the stacks quickly it would like something like; 230, 230, 230, 230, 110, 20

So our stack should be worth around 470$ now. Doubling will make it worth ~630$. So we need 470$/630$ = 75% equity to call, making TT a close call.
In reality we would fold TT and debate about JJ (77% equity), because we can assume we got a fairly big edge here.
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