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0 TCOOP ME flop top pair after defend from BB. C/C or C/R? 0 TCOOP ME flop top pair after defend from BB. C/C or C/R?

01-31-2016 , 07:34 PM
No Limit Hold'em Tournament T5,000/T10,000
Buy-in: $665+$35 USD Hold'em No Limit
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9 players
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Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T534,453)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 (T323,486)
UTG+2 - UTG+2 (T205,285)
MP - MP (T58,974)
MP2 - MP2 (T93,274)
CO - CO (T311,284)
BTN - BTN (T94,230)
SB - SB (T397,554)
BB - Hero (T149,617)

Preflop: (T26,250, 9 players) Hero is BB with Q J
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to T20,000, 6 folds, Hero calls T10,000

Flop: 3 Q 8 (T56,250, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets T18,000, [b][color=red]Hero ????

There is 598 players left and no stats on villain and all tracking sites are blocked on him. I also am blocked from search and he has no hands on me either. top 540 players paid and it`s not gonna be long until we are ITM. Call or check jam? I am in like 200th place or something.
01-31-2016 , 08:01 PM
[ ] ch/sh
[ ] ch/c
[x] unreg pre
01-31-2016 , 08:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hazelasty
[ ] ch/sh
[ ] ch/c
[x] unreg pre
whats your problem?

I would say check shoving is the way to go, there are quite a few worse hands that will call.
01-31-2016 , 08:45 PM
I meant x/c x/r .... i thought so too, looks a lot like a flush draw or the occational 8x spew. a bit cheap to let ak see a turn especially with SPR. Its prob close though and with Icm consideration flatting cant be bad either. having the heart helps.
01-31-2016 , 08:45 PM
ck / call , controling pot size.
01-31-2016 , 11:21 PM
Check- JAM

Given stack sizes that is the most profitable play.
you have 13 BB behind, and do you seriously think you can get away from TPGK with 11 BB if a brick hits the turn? And even when a heart pops up, h(e)art to get away from that.

With a jam, you take initiative and may provoke a hero call from 8x or sometimes even AK (with only the backdoor-nutflushblocker)
02-06-2016 , 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finn-in-web
Check- JAM

This. Villain cbets nearly 100% of his range on this flop.
02-07-2016 , 01:07 AM
x/c, it's too much to jam
02-07-2016 , 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
x/c, it's too much to jam
Would you ever fold and underpair to the jack in villains shoes?
02-08-2016 , 12:25 PM
x/jam seems fine, x/c is prolly losing value when you're beat here very rarely
02-08-2016 , 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pootietang
There is 598 players left and no stats on villain and all tracking sites are blocked on him. I also am blocked from search and he has no hands on me either. top 540 players paid and it`s not gonna be long until we are ITM. Call or check jam? I am in like 200th place or something.
missed this but its quite disturbing. if you care this much about the mincash at 598 w 540 itm in a 700T , you should prolly fold pre vs utg's open and defend vs raises from LJ and further on. ICM DOES have an influence at this stage but I dont think anyone can do an exact calculation (too much data) w 600 players left.
02-08-2016 , 02:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hazelasty
[ ] ch/sh
[ ] ch/c
[ ] unreg pre
[x] fold pre
fyp
02-08-2016 , 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChanY
Would you ever fold and underpair to the jack in villains shoes?
they don't normally get c-bet in the first place, but yes you can absolutely b/f an underpair here on a board that connects with BB pretty well and he has plenty of other hands to b/c with

Quote:
Originally Posted by aseHigh
x/jam seems fine, x/c is prolly losing value when you're beat here very rarely
very rarely? if he opens 14% pre and c-bets KQ+ for value and all his air but for AK we only have 57% equity, and that is still a high cbet strategy on a board that connects with BB pretty well
02-08-2016 , 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teletappy
Villain cbets nearly 100% of his range on this flop.
no, he cbets like 2/3 of his range at most
02-08-2016 , 03:46 PM
If you Check / call... what's your plan for the turn?

I don't play anywhere near these stakes but you called preflop and hit your hand. Are you betting any non AK or heart turn?

      
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