70 left. Hero has 80k. Villain in hand has 90k. Avg stack 50k. Hero opens 87s in MP to 3600 at 800/1600 200ante. Villain in SB 3b to 8500. Hero calls.

Reads: Villain is snug. Hardly any 3 betting so his range is JJ+. Maybe not even JJ. He may 3b AK. Unlikely random air.

Flop (19,400) T97r. Villain bets 12k. Hero shoves.

I don't play tournaments often. My logic vs a friend who plays them often

Mine:
- If i win this pot i have 1/12 chips in play w/ 70 left putting me in solid position
- I called 3b since his range was so narrow and was going with any flop like that
- He folds JJ and QQ and all random air if he did get FPS w/ his 3b
- My image is for once, very solid/tight, as the only hand I showed down in the
last hr was AA.
- My actual equity + FE here makes this a trivial decision


Friends Logic:
- This is for all my chips in a tournament that I likely have an edge in and therefore don't need to put myself in a flip situation.

- I know I'm most likely behind to 3b so just fold pre

Fold pre against described player, not close imo.

Seems perfectly played, I've seen people make absurd folds with overpairs plenty of times here. Only real debate seems preflop, don't think either way is a big mistake when he makes it 8500. Would def fold for 10k+ and def call less than 8k.

nh, if you have a read he can let go of an overpair some of the time then absolutely.

This argument doesn't take into account your "edge" when you double up or win this pot.

saying "not close" is absurd.

Preflop looks standard.

With any read about opponent showing a propensity to make folds, then sure. As described I think its too shallow psr and spewy, and thats coming from a fellow spew monster.

E: oh hero is in position. K I'm cool with it. Still close though and I would be folding a lot of the time.

Postflop is standard.

is it bad to flat the cbet here?

Strategy is so offbase, tactics are meaningless.

This guy is ridiculously nitty and faceup, so your plan is to wait for him to get a premium hand and shove over his cbet on the driest, T high board of all time so that you can rep an even more nutted and get him to fold his second nutted hand?

He has a leak. You should exploit it:

Open 100% of hand when he's in the big blind. Open liberally on his button. Cbet 100% of hands against him when you miss. Figure it out when you get a piece. Fold if he 3bets almost always. You will just print money, and you can do whatever the **** you want with the rest of the table if this guy is just gonna slowly hand you chips over the day.

Instead you pile in a million chips hoping he has queens and not aces and then hoping he somehow hero folds those queens. I mean, yeah, maybe he will, but why get into this spot in the first place? Take the free money.

Sometimes I really wish you wouldn't give out such good advise in an open forum

I don't understand why your talking about an overall gameplan reviewing very basic preflop adjustments, we should already be implementing those, and we should have gotten to this point anyways, and we will still need to make the same decision on the flop.

OP assumes enough CBETS from AK, and enough hero-folds from overpairs

You disagree, (thats fine, and reasonable, and quite possibly correct)

but preflop theory is irrelevant

I think your bringing up good points WRT preflop, but its doesn't help with solving this flop.

Actually andrew preflop theory is INCREDIBLY relevant. Because if there are more +ev things we can do with our chips in the next hand why would we want to make a marginal play right now?

Your "edge" in the tournament will scale with your stack, for instance, if you double up, you can still play a very profitable game but now you have twice the stack and your extra chips are worth more as well. I know it doesn't scale "perfectly" linear, but I believe the value of tournament life, or ICM, or wahtever you wanna call it, at this point is pretty insignificant. Your pretty far from the FT and should be pretty close to chipEV.

I'm sure there is a thread somewhere discussing the value of "tournament life"

There's no way that calling pre against a super tight range and then shoving any favorable flop is going to be chipEV. Unless you flop two pair+, any time you get called you are going to be drawing thin. Not to mention you can slightly discount AK/AQ since live nits 3 bet to 12k+ since they don't want you to flat.

As played, just call flop. The only value in raising flop is to protect against A or K hitting on turn. I don't know where you got the idea that people fold overpairs to this board. If he has set/JJ/QQ, you also get a free card if A or K hits.

Think dude of life has it right here

Like your stack isn't that deep to where u can play 87s profitably vs his nitty 3b range
If u were in some 3b/4b battle vs a lag and u figure getting in a 30/40bb stack w pairs/combo draws is good then ok
As played I'd likely be flatting and seeing action ott plenty of turns are bad for him and good for you