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Old 12-23-2012, 11:56 PM   #1
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4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

Final table, hero has been cl the entire time and been pretty damn aggro. We are running 38/35/12 for the duration of the last two tables. Everyone left is a very good mid to high stakes reg and honestly I don't expect anyone to have a noteworthy skill edge.

Villain just doubled up through someone else so this is one of the first hands where he's cl. I think he's very good and capable of cold 4betting two uno cards here and I'm almost kind of expecting him to do it since he's 4bet me 0 times in this tourney and has been pretty quiet to my left until now (since he was 2/8 etc with shorties).

I think both shoving and 5bet/calling are gonna be massively +cev but obv there's the icm crap. Payouts are roughly 8,5k, 5,3k, 4k and 3k. This doesn't really come often but I really feel like I have four options that are all pretty equal. Please rate the following from the best option to worst:

1) Call
2) 5bet/call
3) 5bet/fold
4) Shove



$1.8k/$3.5k No Limit Holdem
iPoker
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO realgh3part ($90k) 26bb
BTN registeraccount ($166k) 47bb
SB BakinWookies ($278k) 79bb
BB BadugiPro ($326k) 93bb

Pre-Flop: ($6.7k, 4 players) BakinWookies is SB Q A
1 fold, registeraccount raises to $7k, BakinWookies raises to $20k, BadugiPro raises to $39k, registeraccount folds, BakinWookies ?



(edit: converter rounded the numbers, as a very important side note I obviously made it 19999)
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:24 AM   #2
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Re: 4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

Does he realize how bad you are or is he just flying blind? If hes read a CB thread might even just be a fold cause his range should be ridiculously tight, Im leanin towards the ole smoothcall though
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:53 AM   #3
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Re: 4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

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Does he realize how bad you are or is he just flying blind? If hes read a CB thread might even just be a fold cause his range should be ridiculously tight, Im leanin towards the ole smoothcall though
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also would lean towards a call
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:06 AM   #4
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Re: 4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

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Does he realize how bad you are or is he just flying blind? If hes read a CB thread might even just be a fold cause his range should be ridiculously tight, Im leanin towards the ole smoothcall though
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I like 1 and 4 over 2 and 3 cause of 'the icm crap'
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:24 AM   #5
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:56 AM   #6
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Re: 4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

I'm 1,3,4,2 as well. I could elaborate, but I'm pooping and don't want hemorrhoids.
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:09 PM   #7
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Re: 4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

You can play flops. Why have options 2 and 3..
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Old 12-25-2012, 11:00 PM   #8
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Re: 4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

See 3 bro, seems simple
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Re: 4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

i think flatting 7k pre first time is fine

note: maybe i am results orientated
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Re: 4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

I would see 3 and probally hate my life postflop most of the time
Definetely 3bet and id go smaller if i think he doesnt flat too much to 3bets and is buttonclicky
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:19 AM   #11
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Getting a good price (I think, on my phone so quick workings) but given your description of his range and the game flow you have plenty of options post and will be far greater EV than shoving
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Re: 4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

assuming from the lack of updates on the thread that you didn't see 3? Or if you did was was the flop
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Re: 4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

I saw three, but in hindsight (not being results oriented) I'm pretty sure it was a worse idea than clicking any of the other buttons.
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Re: 4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

I like calling provided your not just c/f bricked boards
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Re: 4handed in iPoker 215, preflop spot with many options

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I saw three, but in hindsight (not being results oriented) I'm pretty sure it was a worse idea than clicking any of the other buttons.
I think it's pretty hard for seeing three to be the worst option here

5 bet fold seems awful and you might as well have ace unicorn
5 bet call seems like icm disaster barring some sort of utterly absurd dynamic
shove is probably the best of the other 3 options but still meh, you are doing poorly vs his calling range so you have to be sure he's folding a ****ton of the time and you miss out on any additional spew value
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