Hey guys!

This hand went down in the MSPT $360 regional this past weekend in Milwaukee. I’m fairly sure it’s a standard spot but I wanted to check with the sharks.

Final table, 4 handed. 4th - 28k, 3rd - 37K, 2nd - 60k, 1st – 80k
V is a MAWG rec player who seem a little in over his head but has been getting a sick run of cards since we were 7 handed. He seems to be playing very straight forward pre. 3! jam or calling a jam with 99+, AJo, +A9s. Calling 2x-3x opens with 44-88, KJo-KQs, Not playing bad aces or very small pps. He has about 14 million (about half the chips in play)

H is 33yo white male who V has seen showing down strong hands since we hit the 27 player mark. Every single hand we’ve seen from each other has been all in pre.

OTTH:
250k 500k 50k (2 min left before 300k 600k 50k)
Folds to H OTB 7mill eff AsTs bets 1.25M folds to V in BB who instantly goes all in.
Hero?

I was convinced his range was as I stated above (99+, AJo+, A9s+) as he had been seen flatting similar spots with weaker pairs and suited broadway cards. I know this sounds extremely narrow given we are 4 handed, but I didn’t think he knew to open up a bit now that were so short handed. I don’t have equilab in front of me but I think even vs that range I’m better than 33%. Call? ICM considerations?

Thanks in advance.

You have 14 bigs (7M/500K) pre right? Why would you open for ~20% of your stack without a plan?

IMHO very easy AI pre. As to now, Unless both other stacks are micro (i.e. smaller than you if you fold) I think you are truly f*cked if you believe your range for him. Shoving pre avoids this mess.

If my math is right there's only ~56BB in play, so if villain has 1/2 the chips in play he has ~28BB. If hero has 14BB then the other two stacks are micro.

As played it's ICM suicide to call it off.

Yeah other two had about 6 mill. One a bit more, one a bit less.

I was afraid this was the case. My plan was to call the short stack shove and fold to the big stack, but raise/fold seems absolutely foolish to me now with <15BB

We all make mistakes - that's why we visit forums!

Definitely a shove pre - as played 100% a fold.

r/f isnt that bad

yeah i would jam pre but agree with this

Having a small raise/fold range is fine, but it should be polar with your strongest hands and hands not good enough to jam, and ATs is easily good enough to jam.

Thanks for the input guys. Realized it was a standard gii pre spot after talking to a friend on break.

FWIW I did fold flop (obviously) and V showed me red JJ. two orbits into 300k 600k I shoved 7BB w/ K9s OTB into same V in BB who snapped me off w/ AKo and I was out in 4th.

Still, 28k is my best payday to date so not too upset with results.

Thanks everyone!

Question: Why would I want to r/f stronger hands than ATs? Seems to make more sense with hands like Kxs or bad Ax hands.

Thanks!

edit: fold pre, not fold flop

I misspoke. I want a polar raising range, not a polar raise/fold range.

So maybe I have premium pairs and my best Ax hands in my open/gii range along with some hands like bad Kx and weak suited connectors that I open intending to fold to aggression, and then just open shove everything in between. You can also just have a linear range where you just jam all of your playable hands as well, which at 14BB is perfectly reasonable.

yeah that makes a lot more sense. thx.

Pretty sick prize pool off a $360 BI, geez. Anyways well done.

Im fine with R/F given ICM and villain description

Right!?! 1,654 buy ins. Largest poker tourney in the state of Wisconsin's history.

Shove pre

Very strange payjumps, how is there a 23k gap between 3rd and 2nd but only a 20k gap between 2nd and 1st

No one wants to limp ?
Obv my default is to jamm pre.
Gg tho!


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