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Old 12-20-2009, 08:40 PM   #1
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2nd chance: KK vs Andy Mcleod

If people think this thread is too specific about Andys range just imagine its a generic HS player who crushes cash and any form of poker, is extremely smart and can only be bothered to play tournies on sundays and during series.

This is around two orbits into the tourney, I have been pretty active but nothing crazy has happened yet.
If you call turn whats your plan for different rivers if he crams?

Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
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MP1: t3007 M = 66.82
MP2: t3380 M = 75.11
Hero (CO): t2920 M = 64.89
BTN: t2645 M = 58.78
SB: t3128 M = 69.51
BB: t3610 M = 80.22
UTG: t2475 M = 55
UTG+1: t2970 M = 66
UTG+2: t2865 M = 63.67

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is CO with K K
5 folds, Hero raises to t90, 2 folds, BB calls t60

Flop: (t195) T 5 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120, BB raises to t390, Hero calls t270

Turn: (t975) 4 (2 players)
BB bets t660, Hero...

Ps. Kramerica you don't need to reply, I know you are snapping
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:42 PM   #2
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Re: 2nd chance: KK vs Andy Mcleod

flat/get it in on riv or jam now. Not sure which I like more. Doubt you're really ever beaten here though.
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Old 12-20-2009, 09:16 PM   #3
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Re: 2nd chance: KK vs Andy Mcleod

Way too late in the day to be making big laydowns. Call/call.
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Old 12-20-2009, 09:42 PM   #4
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Re: 2nd chance: KK vs Andy Mcleod

looks like 65s but in the heat of the moment i prob jus shove and blame the loss on bad luck
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:03 PM   #5
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Re: 2nd chance: KK vs Andy Mcleod

Call/call someone whos aggressive for sure but he has you beat a reasonable amount.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:06 PM   #6
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Re: 2nd chance: KK vs Andy Mcleod

if he has a 5 here were just gona have to get stacked/payoff.If you think he has 65 here why cant he have JT, 9T, AT, or any other xT. Does villain know you at all?
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:10 PM   #7
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Doubt I can lay this down, but problem arises that calling turn and c/f river is ugly. I'd prolly call call but can see a fold somewhere...maybe.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:11 PM   #8
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Anyone like a reverse Yeti on the flop?
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Re: 2nd chance: KK vs Andy Mcleod

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Anyone like a reverse Yeti on the flop?
I'm imagining someone who doesn't play poker attempting to interpret this sentence.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:23 PM   #10
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I'm imagining most people who play poker attempting to interpret this sentence.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:35 PM   #11
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Re: 2nd chance: KK vs Andy Mcleod

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Anyone like a reverse Yeti on the flop?
nah, ur just bluffing.

but rly, it all depends on if hes taking mtts serious or not, id quick search him & if hes playing cash then call/call if just mtt fold ott (not kiddin)
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:38 PM   #12
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nah, ur just bluffing.

but rly, it all depends on if hes taking mtts serious or not, id quick search him & if hes playing cash then call/call if just mtt fold ott (not kiddin)
playing around 10 mtts across Stars and FTP
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Old 12-21-2009, 12:11 AM   #13
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Re: 2nd chance: KK vs Andy Mcleod

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I'm imagining someone who doesn't play poker attempting to interpret this sentence.
I read it like 8 times before i was like oh ok

He's not c/ring enough worse for value to do that though, he can definitely have alot of 5x and isnt going to interpret it as bluffy enough if he has a Tx to make up for the times u lose any bluffs he can have
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Old 12-21-2009, 12:23 AM   #14
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By 3betting small we can't get him to rebluff jam OTF more often than he goes bet/bet on a bluff if we call?
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Old 12-21-2009, 12:29 AM   #15
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By 3betting small we can't get him to rebluff jam OTF more often than he goes bet/bet on a bluff if we call?

I think that would be really really bad for Mement Mori to do, because Im pretty sure it takes a decently wide range that mcleod can be able to fold out a good percentage of the time if he decided to do so, into a range that contains no bluffs whatsoever coming from Mement, in otherwords he has no bluffs in his range and unless Mcleod is spazzing hard hes going to shut down to that bet, its probably a fold to the first raise, but if you continue on the turn you should obviously just call call, pretty sure you should fold flop+turn though.
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