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06-15-2017 , 05:03 PM
First level of Day 2, 400/800/100. Sitting on stack of about 30,000.

Villain (~80k stack) in early position raises to 1800.

Hero in middle position makes it 4800 with Q9.

Folds to villain who thinks for a bit, then calls.

(Pot 11700) Flop K 10 8.

Villain checks. Hero (~25k) bets 6200. Villain tanks a bit, calls.

(Pot 24100) Turn Q.

Villain checks. Hero (~19k) ?

What should I do in this spot?
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06-15-2017 , 09:03 PM
check
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06-15-2017 , 09:59 PM
Why 3-bet against early raise who has big stack?
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06-15-2017 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by zoltanbuccos
Why 3-bet against early raise who has big stack?
I lean towards folding, but also mix in some 3bets here. Rep pretty strong and should be able to take it down preflop or with a cbet decent chunk of the time. Can easily fold to a 4bet.
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06-16-2017 , 02:37 AM
Check. Don't like flop size. Either less or more
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06-16-2017 , 05:22 AM
Villain dependent, need more info.
GTO check back or expo jam.

As it happened I think you set up turn jam quite well on this runout.
AJ c/f flop vs your flop sizing often, you block KQ, even KJ may struggle to call off since you generally lack natural (semi)bluffs ott.
You may jam too wide for value which might be bad or not but you lack bluffs.

I think the only issue is I might be wrong but I think your shoving freq generally shouldn't be high on this turn card.

Check vs stationy guys.
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06-16-2017 , 10:42 AM
I think its fine until now unless you bet the turn here. I just don't see what hands you will make the villain fold. I see three types of hands the villain can have

1 ) You are way ahead and he has something like JT, AT, JJ, etc. If it goes to showdown you will likely win.

2) He has a Hand like AK, KQ, KT, TT and is not going to fold to your bet. So you might as well take the free card and hope to improve.

3) He is ahead and has a marginal hand. KJ, AQ (unlikely) and will fold to more pressure from you.


I think scenarios 1 and 2 are much more likely. So you might as well take the free card because you have some showdown value or you are beat and he is not going to fold.
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06-17-2017 , 08:46 PM
Either check back or bet 10-11k and call jam. This sizing puts the same amount of pressure on most hands but will allow you to save chips when they just call with a better hand.
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06-17-2017 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by user12345
Villain dependent, need more info.
GTO check back or expo jam.

As it happened I think you set up turn jam quite well on this runout.
AJ c/f flop vs your flop sizing often, you block KQ, even KJ may struggle to call off since you generally lack natural (semi)bluffs ott.
You may jam too wide for value which might be bad or not but you lack bluffs.

I think the only issue is I might be wrong but I think your shoving freq generally shouldn't be high on this turn card.

Check vs stationy guys.
lmao youre going to start playing GTO on the turn after pre and flop??
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06-17-2017 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rm81
Either check back or bet 10-11k and call jam. This sizing puts the same amount of pressure on most hands but will allow you to save chips when they just call with a better hand.
jesus no
check here there is no other play
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06-18-2017 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by mfonte85
lmao youre going to start playing GTO on the turn after pre and flop??
I am gonna play gto whenever the fk I want but yeah usually I start on turn.

@PP yes maybe his range is too strong by the turn given he opened utg.
It was my first snap thought jamming turn is cute and funny.
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06-18-2017 , 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by user12345
I am gonna play gto whenever the fk I want but yeah usually I start on turn.





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06-18-2017 , 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by user12345
I am gonna play gto whenever the fk I want but yeah usually I start on turn.
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😎

...andin my club, I vill splash da pot venever da fak I pleez...
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