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01-19-2015 , 05:02 PM
$200 online mtt

Late stages of the tourney, on the FT bubble, with 10 players remaining.

Blinds 1400/2800 250 ante (5 handed)

Hero SB 116,353
vpip 20 pfr 15
tot 3b 4.4

Villain UTG 137,241 - (495 hands)
vpip 26 pfr 20
tot 3b 8.9 fold to 3b 59
tot 4b 25
flop cb 67 turn cb 50 river cb 67


Preflop
V open to 5898
H call JJ I considered putting in a 3b, however choose take a lower variance line
BB fold

Flop 15,846 844
H check
V bet 8999
H call

Turn 33,844 5
H check
V bet 16,525
H call

River 66,894 T
H check
V bet 35,555
H ?
01-20-2015 , 08:44 AM
As played call
01-26-2015 , 04:25 AM
I think considering you were 5 handed that pre flop you are better off to 3 bet and then evaluate from there. Since you called the turn I think you have to call the river.

Last edited by bugeye420; 01-26-2015 at 04:31 AM.
01-26-2015 , 11:01 AM
How do you ever even think of not calling river?
02-03-2015 , 12:47 PM
as played call

is that 59% fold to 3bet you posted?
with that and the comment above regarding it being 5 handed I think 3bet is a good idea.. I do think you have a point with wanting to take lower variance line with it being final table bubble though
02-03-2015 , 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stlcardinals
How do you ever even think of not calling river?
What a miserable post
02-03-2015 , 02:57 PM
I'd prolly call but not expecting to be good v often
He has some bluffs like ax with a of spades and kx w spade. But many value hands. All over pairs, some small flushes. Blocking j of spades hurts it of his strong flush combos (kj spades etc so can reduce combos there) he also has some 888 ttt and some 4x as well
Lol after listing it out his value range really crushes you.
Vs really aggro types w hi agg% I guess I'd click call but vs more
Solid types think c/f river is prolly ok. Only value hands I see
You beating is a few combos of 10x he finds his way to riv with So you don't have a pure bluff catcher, and for this price
You prolly squeeze some ev from a call but it's super close and I think you can just rely on your read or inclination.
02-03-2015 , 05:51 PM
The problem with capping our range at our actual hand preflop is that postflop we oftentimes have to sigh, close our eyes, acknowledge we have the best hand we can ever show up with here, wonder if we should have done something differently preflop, and click call.

Spoiler:
This is one of those times.
02-03-2015 , 11:08 PM
Yes its only a crying call for sure. Its a call though unless the guy is tight and not bluffing as much often. You definitely only beat some persistent AK or AQ or AsTx (in general AsX)or 99 , A8 and tie with another JJ. You lose of course to all flushes, fh and quads and higher pairs and some funny 67s. Tons of hands you lose to but because of the way played preflop there are many that just wanted to push you out as well or some that thought were ahead.

You only need 26,27% to call here and guess what, its about there if you include all these hands. So call or fold its no big deal if you folded.
02-04-2015 , 01:28 AM
Tough to say and depends alot on who villain is and how the table is playing out. I know it sounds cliche but it's a NJ site with only a few 100 players.
02-04-2015 , 05:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by masque de Z
Yes its only a crying call for sure. Its a call though unless the guy is tight and not bluffing as much often. You definitely only beat some persistent AK or AQ or AsTx (in general AsX)or 99 , A8 and tie with another JJ. You lose of course to all flushes, fh and quads and higher pairs and some funny 67s. Tons of hands you lose to but because of the way played preflop there are many that just wanted to push you out as well or some that thought were ahead.

You only need 26,27% to call here and guess what, its about there if you include all these hands. So call or fold its no big deal if you folded.
His turn sizing seems indicative he's not the type we should be thrilled to bluffcatch against.
Not sure he bets many Tx otr to say it's a good river card even despite everything.
02-04-2015 , 05:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bugeye420
I think considering you were 5 handed that pre flop you are better off to 3 bet and then evaluate from there. Since you called the turn I think you have to call the river.
+1
02-04-2015 , 08:34 PM
Any info on his cbet sizings?

Ps; fitting username.
02-05-2015 , 07:20 PM
Call all day. You are super under-repped.
02-05-2015 , 09:20 PM
Too close imo. I take into account gameflow, my own image and chip distribution, and act accordingly, in most cases prolly tank-heroing.

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07-16-2015 , 08:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebet33
What a miserable post
You're a miserable poker player.
07-16-2015 , 09:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stlcardinals
You're a miserable poker player.
nah, ebet is good.
it was a pretty miserable post.
not saying it's a fold though.

      
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