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07-06-2017 , 10:38 AM
Hand 1

Hero has 18K in the CO, my image is bit tighter
Villain 1 has 12K OTB
Villain 2 has 5.5K in the SB, old school pro (not a big name but has been playing a long time)

Blinds 200/400 w/ 50 ante

Hero has A9 and raises 1,000, Villain 1 calls, Villain 2 shoves, Hero? If say easy fold, what is the minimum that you call with?

Hand 2
Hero has 23K and has been very tight in the BB
Villain is younger pro who plays live. He has been raising a lot in late position. He has had a few big hands where he has had the goods. He has 35K.

Blinds 250/500 w 75 ante
Hero has KQ

Preflop: Villain raises to 1,300, Hero raises to 3,300 in the BB, Villain calls

Flop: J 7 4
Hero bets 4,000, villain calls

Turn: 9
Hero shoves for ~ 16K

Love it? Hate it?

I was thinking he most likely has to be on a draw (maybe a combo draw, maybe a pair and a flush draw), Any other amount that I bet and he has odds to call.
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07-06-2017 , 11:28 AM
First hand is an (almost) straight math problem. You need to win about 36% of the time, for +Cev, assuming button folds to the raise.

You want to win more than that, since there is a possibility that button has a real hand, and losing chips hurts more than winning does.

I'd add about 2% for each of those possibilities, so you probably want to be good 40%.

Against any pair, any 2 broadway cards you are 43%; I'd say V2 is pushing even more that that. You are actually a small favorite if he pushes that plus any ace.

I guess you should 4 bet shove if you think it is worth a call.

Hand 2:

Your 3 bet looks small to me. You gave him odds to call with any hand he opened with.

He is unlikely to be calling the flop with total air. His calling range can include some made hands like QJ,JT. Your play seems to be mostly an image play; if he calls, you won't have great equity. I suspect your pot sized shove has + Cev. Not sure you want the variance.
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07-06-2017 , 11:55 AM
Hand 1: Fold. Crushed a ton and u don't close action

Hand 2: You don't say what position he opened from, which matters. Raise to 4k and definitely don't recommend the shove when he covers you and can call and be wrong and still have a workable stack. Would like it better if stack sizes were reversed. That said, it's ok to check the flop, don't feel compelled to bet bad flops every time you 3b pre oop.

Last edited by Black Thought; 07-06-2017 at 12:05 PM.
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07-06-2017 , 11:59 AM
Hand 1 - Given that he's an old-school pro we may want to be a little tighter than normal?
I'd probably re-shove to isolate with AJ+ or any pair. A9 definitely a fold.

Hand 2 - I don't like the re-raise sizing pre-flop. It's not big enough for him to fold almost anything given stack sizes. Personally I would call here ... Keep your calling range wide with calling both mediocre hands (the 10 8 suited type hands) and the bigger ones like KQ. If you re-raise, it's gotta be bigger.

I also don't love the lead on the flop with just two overs. If it was like J 9 4 where you could hit a gutter on the turn I think that's better but I think it's OK to check here.

Don't love the shove, either. You're basically trying to sell AA/KK/QQ only, I guess. If you think you have enough of an image to do that then go ahead. I think you could find better bluff spots, though. Most good players aren't just barreling off 45bb with overpair ... they'd be looking to pot control a bit with a big pair against a big stack on such a connected board. I'm not sure I would believe your line if I was in villian's shoes.
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07-06-2017 , 01:00 PM
Hand 1 really depends if SB is shoving any Ax, and what OTBs image is. Kinda close. Think I pile ATo/A9s.

Where does V open from in 2? Assuming CO/BU, I like your line/sizings. We don't have a lot of turn piles here, and cc combos prob make up a decent %, but w us blocking some bd equity for him and tpgk, think its prob ok.
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07-06-2017 , 01:07 PM
Hand 1 is a jam.

Hand 2, easy flat preflop (and don't ever use this 3bet sizing), as played I guess 2 barreling can never be that bad?
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07-06-2017 , 03:01 PM
hand 1 - idk calling is probably bad vs an old school mtt nit but not sure where this is in your button opening range you dont wanna be folding 2 many hands 2 hi in your range vs this shove and your price to gamble isnt 2 bad its probably closish in ev
hand 2 - seems like a nightmare, your pf size is really bad imo, just flat or go for like 3.5x -4.5x with what should be a mostly polarized range, kq is an ok bluff w good blockers and stuff but you just price in the bb with like all of his range. (preflop)
anyway otf i think bet is ok but go bigger or smaller, turn id just give up like almost always.
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