There's plenty of help. Just not on your side so you don't care.

Less behind means we realise our equity easier because we can get it in more often with shallower stacks.


Games are still good I see.

You are polarizing yourself to a low board, or hearts, this is a pretty easy snap, especially with his percieved image. hes just not folding aces when he knows u guys think hes a maniac and this texture rarely favors you in a heads up pot.

with a hand like 34cc u can rep the 987 board alot easier than repping this low board. Flushes are not much of a factor in a heads up 3bet pot.

think its the other way around

Nope that's why you can call wider in the bb with 8bb than 300bb. We can get in any pair any draw for 8bb we can't for 300bb.

We can x/jam draws and pairs when we are shorter. Thus realising equity.

Assuming it is a ft then icm doesn't let us just snap stuffn in like u could at 40bb plo or whatever

Yeah when we're super short you're right. When we're a bit deeper but not really deep it becomes hard to peel bad to decent draws as we have little room to bluff when we miss or to get value when we hit. You can't just profitably c/shove a 753 flop with 35bb like you can with 12.

well obviously with 8 bb but don't think so with 15-20.

He obviously isn't playing 89c for absolute value, even against his opponents wider range.

It's true that decision making becomes easier the smaller your stack size, but honestly that has little to do with this hand or discussion.

I was simply pointing out that as stacks get shorter we realise equity easier. Lolposting said this wasn't the case


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Theres no disagreeing w the micks point. I do think icm (again didn't think twice that it wasn't a ft) is going to cut down on this
I was also eluding to the value of a hand like this going down as stacks get shorter.
There'd an oddsen vid on short stack plo where he talks about the value of hands like 4678 or whatever going down and hands like akxx going up at 40bb cap.
Same ideas are are at work here 98s is going to play better w deeper stacks and at 100bb its an open almost 100% at 20bb well you see my point.
I mentioned this cuz some other posters said it would be "lol" to fold this hand
So I may have not articulated my original point well and Mick happened to point that out

THIS IS NOT FT OR CLOSE TO ITM

PLS.

Starting chips = 25k

Well, you're the one who wrote "since villain came to the ft" in the OP

Lmao why the **** did i write that, my bad lol.. But yeah, this is not a FT

Read OP 5 times, still trying to work out where we are supposed to fold? Which part of pre flop do you guys mean?

Don't tap tank pads

Yes, i undestood and i don't have any more questions for the hand thank you.