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Old 06-28-2012, 01:31 PM   #1
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$1500 NLHE bustout hand

This was my first ever WSOP bracelet event although I am an experienced live tourney player.

I was up to 10k by the first break just from picking on the weak/tight/scared players. I had no idea there would be so many of these guys in this field. However, once they all busted out by 3 or 4 in the afternoon, their seats were filled with much better, much more aggressive players.

In a previous hand with villain, I raised in UTG+2 with A-Qo. Blinds 100/200/25. Villain is the only caller 3 on my left. Flop is 10-10-8. I c-bet 650 and villain raises to 1400. I 3-bet shipped 4500 more for value honestly believing I had the best hand. He folded.

I haven't been very active (card dead) and a lot of my opens (steals) have been 3-bet anyway. Villain has been very active, doing a lot of opening, 3-betting and the occasional 4-bet in position. Between him and the guy on his right, who is almost as active, I feel handcuffed as I'm always one of the more active players on the table.

Blinds 150/300/25. Villain raises to 750 UTG. I flat on the button with A 10 I started the hand with 11k and change. Villain has 20k and two of the other laggy players are also around the 15 to 20k mark. Both blinds also call.

Flop: K 2 Q

Villain c-bets 1400 into a pot of 3k+ after both blinds check.

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Old 06-28-2012, 01:38 PM   #2
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Ship it right there.
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:53 PM   #3
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Re: $1500 NLHE bustout hand

you look even more bladed if you make it 4k/call instead of shipping....and ship all turns if he just calls for some reason
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:23 AM   #4
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Re: $1500 NLHE bustout hand

I am torn here between the ship and a 3bet to 4k.

If you ship, it turns your hand face up imo, but if you 3 bet his bet to 4,000 you are committing 40% of your remaining stack and we know we are not folding our hand whatever happens on this flop.

I don't think either is a bad play and in the heat of the moment I would end up jamming, but I think the 3-bet to 4k and then a call of any shove is possibly the better play because you look that much stronger.

If you got it in and did not get there with this hand then I don't think it is a bad thing.

If he is super aggro you could think about a 3-bet pre, you have position and are probably ahead of his opening range, even UTG. I think another way to play it could be to 3-bet to 2,100 pre. You may get resepct for the fact that you have been quiet.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:27 PM   #5
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Re: $1500 NLHE bustout hand

i would ship it here, 4k is just as good though (might even be better)
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:35 PM   #6
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Re: $1500 NLHE bustout hand

Id flat
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:52 PM   #7
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Re: $1500 NLHE bustout hand

I had almost same kind of hand except flop is 7s 8c 9c, I shipped it n guy calls me with AK n beat me
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:20 PM   #8
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Re: $1500 NLHE bustout hand

I ship. There is already 4.6k in the pot. 11k to win 4.6k uncontested on a draw hand is pretty good.
I like the fold equity and free chips which increases your stack by 40% with no turn/river. If he calls with any hand you have plenty of outs.
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:42 AM   #9
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Re: $1500 NLHE bustout hand

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If he is super aggro you could think about a 3-bet pre, you have position and are probably ahead of his opening range, even UTG. I think another way to play it could be to 3-bet to 2,100 pre. You may get resepct for the fact that you have been quiet.
I don't need a hand anywhere near as strong as I had to 3-bet, especially in position, but I don't like doing it to an UTG raiser and I didn't like the idea of doing it at the time for some reason. I would be a lot more comfortable 3-betting with Q9s than I would ATs.

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i would ship it here, 4k is just as good though (might even be better)
I thought about that as well but with a hand like this, but being somewhere between a 32% and a 48% favorite, I want to leverage as much fold equity as I can, right? Shipping the flop seems like I turn my hand face-up as you or someone else said. It kind of reeks of a strong draw.

Results: He snap called me with top set and the turn paired the board.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:05 AM   #10
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Re: $1500 NLHE bustout hand

2800/call
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