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00 Millionaire Maker - Flopped Baby Flush 00 Millionaire Maker - Flopped Baby Flush

07-16-2016 , 07:28 PM
This hand occured at the 250/500 level of the millionaire maker shortly after dinner break.

UTG - ~35K - very TAG, thinking, millenial, decent and we've been casually talking a bit.

MP4 - ~14K - Spewy younger player. UTG and I actually spoke about MP4's tendencies after witnessing a few of his aggressive overshoves with TPTK/overpairs, and noted that shoving into him would beget an easy call.

Me - ~40K - image is tight & sound. Table has been rather friendly seeing flops 4-5 ways often.

UTG raises to 1200, I flat with 34 UTG+1, MP4 calls behind

Flop 910Q

UTG checks, I lead for 3,000, MP4 shoves, UTG thinks for ~20 seconds and shoves also.

We?

In B4 - WTF are you doing with 34hh.
07-16-2016 , 08:04 PM
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07-16-2016 , 11:04 PM
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07-17-2016 , 03:40 AM
WTF are you doing with 34
07-17-2016 , 08:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by roundroom
I lead for 3,000.
No you don't. You bet 3000. You can't lead if the initial raiser has already acted.

Why do you think your image is solid when you're flatting 43s? Is this the one time you're randomly doing this? Cause I can guarantee you if you've been at the table for more than one orbit, your image is not solid, even if nothing went to showdown.

The hand itself is pretty close, you often have 0% equity, but there are some scenarios where you have 85% or something. I suppose with MP being spewy and you being super wide utg has reason to stack off with more hands than usual so I'd go with it. This is an excellent spot to do some live soulreading though.
07-17-2016 , 09:45 AM
so you flat very tag player's utg raise with 34s in utg+1? You should stop playing high imo.
07-17-2016 , 04:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebet33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pgcounty
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These
07-17-2016 , 04:18 PM
Mods move to BBV, this has to be a troll.

Was eager to see the hand after you gave some insight about the players.

UTG+1 lmao, you're gonna likely try and justify this by the good old "we've seen a lot of hands five and even six say" but this is just beyond terrible.

Probably one of the very few times I'm gonna say unreg pre on this forum and be completely serious.

I'd fold flop to save yourself the embarrassment.
07-21-2016 , 05:40 PM
What soepgroente said (he was nicer than others, who are also right)
07-21-2016 , 05:51 PM
fold pre, check flop, dont fold now.
07-22-2016 , 05:01 PM
Enough with the insults, gentlemen. I wouldn't have played the hand the same way as OP either, but I'm going to do him the courtesy of trying to answer his question.

UTG and you each know one another knows that MP4 is spewy-wild. Your opening bet on the flop to a three-way hand tells UTG you didn't entirely whiff the flop. Spewtard will shove on as little as a dry Jh, probably, and will almost certainly do it with the dry Ah or Kh. He won't do it with a made nut flush, though, and probably won't to a made K flush. With 6600 in the middle already, a 14K shove isn't totally and completely absurd: MP4 is pot-committed once he calls your 3K flop bet, so he might as well GII. UTG's raise looks like it's an isolation bet, but may well be the cold Ah. He knows you know that MP4's range is wide, though, and if I were him, I'd do this with a made nut flush to level you into calling.

One significant trouble with the hand is that UTG isn't raising early with many unsuited A combos -- AK and AQ and maybe AJ. So his aces are mostly suited. Perforce he doesn't have many dry aces in his range, and those are what you hope he has.

If you're going to call pre with the 3h4h, and I won't bandwagon on the criticism, then you've got to call here. You're almost certainly beating MP4, but you have to worry about your UTG buddy. Soulread with a bias towards shoving the chips in.
07-22-2016 , 05:02 PM
BTW, you definitely want to show the hand for image. Labax is incorrect in that you should die of embarrassment rather than show the hand. You should show the hand and then play much tighter. There's nothing to be embarraseed about, period.
07-26-2016 , 11:34 AM
I don't know why OP is getting such hate for 43s. On a passive table I would play this hand with stacks this deep.

I think what makes this dynamic a call is the knowledge that Mp4 is wild and aggressive. You and UTG know this and he is trying to isolate him. I would call this hand and if the other player already has a flush, then you got coolered. But as Soepgroente said, you will often have 85% equity in this spot.
08-08-2016 , 06:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
BTW, you definitely want to show the hand for image. Labax is incorrect in that you should die of embarrassment rather than show the hand. You should show the hand and then play much tighter. There's nothing to be embarraseed about, period.
+1, totally agree. You play 34 and flop a flush, then yeah you are usually going with it. Also, I'm putting UTG on the A and MP4 on something like pair with K maybe even K-J with J.
08-10-2016 , 10:32 PM
fold
08-20-2016 , 05:58 PM
What in Gods name you even consider folding this hand right now.

Besides calling with 34s UTG+1 being horrible. Now you saw the flop, isn't this the best flop you can possibly dream for when you decided to play with 34s? or you were hoping to flop a straight flush?

If someone else has a higher flush then so be it, you've learned not to play 34s UTG+1 now. That's probably a million dollar worth lesson, if you were to play poker for rest of your life.
08-21-2016 , 11:20 PM
you played this hand to flop 334 33x 44x 34x or a flush. You got your flush. There is no turning back now.

Personally I wouldn't be the first person to flat especially UTG+1, but after MP4 Flats, I would flat right after him no problem.

This hand doesn't deserve all the insults its receiving.

I'd snap call and I think you're ahead here very often.

      
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