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Old 06-13-2011, 01:51 PM   #16
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

Depends on how DN views Bichon
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:04 PM   #17
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

Bichon basically shoves, I don't think this being PLHE matters here at all. And OP says that DN views him as tight and doesn't expect him to stick it in light here. Based on this, what are we expecting DN to do with AQ or TT if we shove? It'd be a huge shove for 1,5x average, and OP could also make a small 5bet to like 70k trying to rep huge and make DN live pro fold something ridiculous. Idk, I sure am not folding TT here at the very least.
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:21 PM   #18
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

I would reluctantly fold, I would not fold queens or ace king though.
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Old 06-13-2011, 11:02 PM   #19
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

I just found the pokernews update for this hand. VWP op

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Old 06-14-2011, 02:23 AM   #20
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

I know this isn't the HH in question as it seems close w/e from your way....and I Was sweating so I know it worked out....but I think Negreanus decision is more interesting.

I think that Negreanu should have a calling range and a repotting range...and making it 40 is retarded.
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Old 06-14-2011, 03:01 AM   #21
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I know this isn't the HH in question as it seems close w/e from your way....and I Was sweating so I know it worked out....but I think Negreanus decision is more interesting.

I think that Negreanu should have a calling range and a repotting range...and making it 40 is retarded.
Think he should repot AKs but OK to CIB KK+ and some hands he are an easy fold to Ansky's repot. Think the CIB just got Negreanu in a difficult situation here.
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Old 06-14-2011, 05:29 AM   #22
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

Seems like a trivial shove because of how shallow the BB is.
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:00 AM   #23
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

I definitely get in JJ here, TT would be close, and I'm definitely folding 99
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:45 AM   #24
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

Clearly dan is putting Buchon all in to try to knock out a player.

I also think daniel thinks you will fold since you are facing such a large bet.

call and look at flop, you may flop a set or dan may check it down to knock out a player.
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

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I know this isn't the HH in question as it seems close w/e from your way....and I Was sweating so I know it worked out....but I think Negreanus decision is more interesting.

I think that Negreanu should have a calling range and a repotting range...and making it 40 is retarded.
what would you have done w/AKs?
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what would you have done w/AKs?
He would have potted it and not folded
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:41 AM   #27
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

I'd get this in as played, but isn't 3b pre here good vs Daniel? He'll flat incredibly wide?
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:50 AM   #28
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

Think the CIB is typical live pro and Negreanu play. He can get away if Ansky has AA/KK, but Ansky is repotting a wider range than that and AKs is not is that terrible shape against KK. The flat is the SB might be suspicious, but Ansky probably 3-bets AA/KK, since Negreanu calls light in position.
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Old 06-14-2011, 04:13 PM   #29
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

the wierd thing about the play is that he folded when it got back to him...i spose the reason for potting is to not give us the odds to fold? DN raised it the amt that it left him another decision, if he raises it much more he's committed, by bump raising it he can leave himself a decision when action returns..should be +ev

that being said fold AKs? really?
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:35 PM   #30
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Re: 10k PLHE hand vs Negreanu

Fold, you only have 5k committed why put your tournament on the line with JJs 3 ways, DN is repping a big hand by just min raising stating hes all in if you raise your obv trying to get DN to fold if you raise which I think he tends to over think things so it might work but I dont think its worth it there's always the next hand 2 min later

In this spot I dont raise anything beside KK, AA, AK is trivial and I would change my mind multiple times with it doing something different everytime anything up to QQs I fold

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