I'm mainly playing 50/100nl and 50/100 plo 6max and fr with the pfr of a TAG.

Last year it was 7% rake iirc with similar rakeback to PS.com which would probably end up to be about 5-6% rake effective (accounting for ~28% rb at SN level?) and supposedly about 4-5% lower rakeback at platinum star level?
I also have about 400euros from the 500euros first deposit left to clear which would end up to be about additional 25% rb for about 8000vpp.

Would be cool if someone could tell me what the effective changes are and how much higher the rake is in comparison to PS.com.
btw the current FLASH reload bonus accounts for about 15%rb+ is that correct?

Thanks in advance

Bronze 10,80%
Silver 11,00%
Gold 14,52%
Platin 18,60%

No Bonus considered

Thank you.
How does it work out for a SN including the vip stellar rewards and the 250.000 fpp bonus?
How much do the stellar rewards in themselves add?

due to the changes they made, i have left stars.fr this year.
today i have played my first session in 2012, cause i ve heard about the negotiations and the positive results.

i have raked 200€ acc to HEM.
i got back 500 VPP for 1750 FPP (with my SN status).

this looks like 12% RB w SN status!?
and the stellar adds up to 0,5% RB!?

is this real?

edit: i play a taggish fullring style.

Wow, that sounds really ridiculous.
If that's the case you'd need to rake 40k to even reach the 100k vpp mark whereas it should be more along the lines of 15k rake (or maybe more for ps.fr, anyway 40k is definitely way too high).

stellar is 705€, 250k fpp bonus is 3300€, just as a reminder.

2011 vpp rate was 7.5vpp per euro rake which is 13333.3€ rake for 100k vpp
2012 vpp rate is 5.5vpp per euro rake which is 18181.18€ rake for 100k vpp
oh snap

so for a fresh starter it's roughly 22%rb
for sn it should be 4005 + 2/5*3300 = 5325 ~ 29,3%

since everybody is complaining my math is probably not correct, though :E


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nvm, after the negotiations it's


x6 multiplier
2011 milestones + 500€ (redistribued to make it less top heavy)
12 month instead of 9 month of maintaining status
able to miss 2 month
lower vpp requirements for SN to maintain status (6500)
a bonus for 2011 SN/SNE
X200€ for SNX (ie 200e for SN 600 for SN3)
3k€ for 2011 SNE
some changes in the stellars bonus (upped but we don't know how much)

16666,6€ rake for 100k vpp so ~24%rb for fresh starter
former sn ~ 32%


Is that about right?



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FLASH reload bonus requires 533,3 € ~ +18,7%rb

i have written an email to the support, and they stated, that they "will communicate on these upcoming adjustments once they
become effective. Rest assured that we will provide you with more
details as soon as the changes will have been made, notably
through our website, available here:

http://www.pokerstars.fr/en/vip/"

so the changes are still to come.

that would be way better than expected, but i still dont know, why it doesn t meet my HEM reports.

do you know, when the changes will become effective?

no idea

It doesn't match up with my HEM, either. Paid about 280 bucks in rake today and only got 1000vpp, seriously wtf