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Old 06-26-2012, 09:40 AM   #16
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Re: The Log That Put H&F on the Map: YouTalkFunny's Weightloss Log

Gl OP. Seems a bit grandiose given the title and some of the "famous" things you are saying about this log already. But, if that helps motivate you, then I hope this really is the most famous log in history.

As it seems you've already discovered or learned, calories is king. Having said that, compliance is kinglier so taking initial steps like cutting back calories but still eating <insert food that is "unhealthy" here> may help with that so it's good. But don't be afraid to keep in mind that for a truly epic log, you can continue to make changes as you progress, buoyed by your sense of accomplishment and newly found famousness.

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Old 06-26-2012, 09:41 AM   #17
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Re: The Log That Put H&F on the Map: YouTalkFunny's Weightloss Log

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Using McDonald's estimate conservatively, maintenance should be somewhere between 4200 and 4500. He should lose somewhere between 2 to 3 pounds per week.
How do you lose 2-3lbs a week maintaining? Sincere question btw, I feel you like you left something out or I'm missing something.

Is it because someone so fat could simply maintain and still burn off enough cals to end up in a deficit?

Still, 4k+ cals just seems so high. That can't be right.

Either way, 4k cals of TacoBell, BK, and whatever else he is eating is not the way to go. OP should try keto. Would still be able to eat a lot of the foods he enjoys.
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:47 AM   #18
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Re: The Log That Put H&F on the Map: YouTalkFunny's Weightloss Log

Empty, Jbrochu is responding to someone saying 2.7k is too high and that ytf should aim for fewer calories. Jbrochu is saying that according to Lyle 4200-4500 should be ytf's maintenance, and so if ytf eats 2.7k, he has a ~1500 (3 pounds/week) deficit.
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:06 AM   #19
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Re: The Log That Put H&F on the Map: YouTalkFunny's Weightloss Log

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How do you lose 2-3lbs a week maintaining? Sincere question btw, I feel you like you left something out or I'm missing something.

Is it because someone so fat could simply maintain and still burn off enough cals to end up in a deficit?

Still, 4k+ cals just seems so high. That can't be right.

Either way, 4k cals of TacoBell, BK, and whatever else he is eating is not the way to go. OP should try keto. Would still be able to eat a lot of the foods he enjoys.

Sorry, I should have quoted the post I was responding to. Fabian has it correct.

4200 - 2700 = 1500 calorie deficit per day
7 days * 1500 = 10,500 calorie deficit per week, which is 3 pounds

(I have no idea if McDonald's estimate is correct, but I used the numbers conservatively. I assume maintaining 380 pounds of bodyweight takes some serious chow.)

I agree YTF could do better with his choices. But please go back and read the thread in OOT from the start. Baby steps and progress at this point are way more important than trying to force a more optimal diet.
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:07 AM   #20
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Re: The Log That Put H&F on the Map: YouTalkFunny's Weightloss Log

Empty, I really don't think you're helping YTF. Like at all. He's almost 400 lbs with a life time of terrible eating. He can't flip a switch, he's not a machine.

Also, about the food scale questions in the oot thread:
http://www.amazon.com/EatSmart-Preci...rds=food+scale

This is the one I have. It works fine and is pretty compact where I actually could carry it with me if I so chose.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:16 AM   #21
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Re: The Log That Put H&F on the Map: YouTalkFunny's Weightloss Log

OP, are you currently physically active at all?

Walking for someone weighing 380 lbs must burn insane amount of calories.
Isn't that like someone normal-sized taking a hike w a ~200lb weighted vest or am I missing something?
Add in jello-effect of flab vs solid vest and it must be even more challenging.
(note, not trying to make fun of obese ppl or anything, just a random thought)
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:23 AM   #22
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Re: The Log That Put H&F on the Map: YouTalkFunny's Weightloss Log

If OP's diet isn't high in WIM then all of this will be for nothing.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:01 PM   #23
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Lifting weights doesn't seem advisable. He just needs to walk for 20 minutes or so a day and eat less than 2500 calories or so to start, and add 5 minutes to the walking each week until he's up to an hour, and take away 100 calories or so each week until he's below 2000. He will probably lose several pounds per week for many months just by doing this. For him to start out doing a ketogenic diet + a barbell program seems extremely ambitious and probably dangerous to his health and psyche.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:33 PM   #24
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Re: The Log That Put H&F on the Map: YouTalkFunny's Weightloss Log

YTF -

sorry if you already covered it, but what is the nature of your knee issues?
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:34 PM   #25
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When he was 16 someone accidentally spilled some mayo on it and it's never been the same since
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:29 PM   #26
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Re: The Log That Put H&F on the Map: YouTalkFunny's Weightloss Log

Subscribing, gl ytf.

Of note is how many people have started logging and found some motivation and/or inspiration from your oot thread. There must be at least a dozen who posted in that thread, and probably several more. It has had a weird feelgood effect on the oot readership. For oot, that is a pretty remarkable acomplishment.
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:31 PM   #27
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Re: The Log That Put H&F on the Map: YouTalkFunny's Weightloss Log

Just wanted to drop in and say hi and good luck. Like loco and anklebreaker have already mentioned, a deficit and some walking will be more than enough for the first 100 lbs.
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:33 PM   #28
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Subscribing, gl ytf.

Of note is how many people have started logging and found some motivation and/or inspiration from your oot thread. There must be at least a dozen who posted in that thread, and probably several more. It has had a weird feelgood effect on the oot readership. For oot, that is a pretty remarkable acomplishment.
+1.

I just started my log, the OOT thread really helped refocus my motivation. I've been slowly losing weight since late March, but it can be really hard to stay on track, so your OOT thread and all the responses renewed my commitment.

Best of luck, OP. If you stick with this, you can do it.
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Old 06-26-2012, 02:22 PM   #29
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One of the biggest derails in OOT history came about when a thread about scams drifted into a discussion about airplane seating, which led inevitably to someone whining about sitting next to a fattie, which led to some remarks toward fatties that were so insensitive that they wouldn't be tolerated in polite society if aimed at an ethnic group, gender, or practitioners of a religion or alternative lifestyle--but it's still Open Season on Fatties, it's Anything Goes, you can say whatever you want about them, call them any slur you can think of...
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But yeah, prepare for a looooootttt of walking.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:14 PM   #30
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