Day 6 7/13 (continued)

7pm
3 seconds of chest pain. Ate Some triscuts w/cheese on them. Debating on working out or not. All this heart attack talk makes me not want to. But haven't decided yet.

You do know that jaw pain is a classic precursor to heart attacks?

Just wanted to pop in here and say for the love of god stop taking it.

I am aware of this. Thank you for your imput
Yes of course. I am going to take off the remainder of the day and reevaluate tomorrow.


Day 6 7/13 (continued)

8pm Pain Free

8:30 pm Went to gym, Lifted Legs. Heart rate average during workout 120 max 149. No pain at all.

10pm Ate some chicken.

12pm Fell Asleep.

I've done ECA (Stacker 2 when it was available) before and lost a significant amount of weight using it. I found I had to work out early in the morning before my first dose otherwise my heart would be totally out of control for my workout. The main side effect I had was that I would sweat the entire day even when sitting watching tv or playing online poker and I would have to change undershirts/shirts about 3-4 times a day it was really bad.

Day 7 7/14/08(Continued)

6am
Wake up and go to work. Feel sloggish. Weighed in at 181.4 not much change from last

Fridays weigh in.

Taking the whole day off of EC. Want to give my heart and body a full day of recovery time.

8:30 Eat breakfast Chicken, Bacon, cheese Cheese Rollup

12:30 Lunch Iceberg, Spinanch, peppers, sunflower seeds, tomatoes, ranch salad. and ,

Queso dip, brocalli.

Heart has felt normal all day. Considering going back to the EC tomorrow.

Lol, when you die of a heart attack, this whole thread is going to do the rounds and get you nominated for a Darwin award.

I guarantee your experiment is not healthy for you in the long run. There are many other healthier options to lose weight. Exercise a bit everyday and eat well. Limit fats, sugars, and sodium. You will be thin in no time. Punishing your heart for no good reason is dumb imo.

Stop eating so much cheese and you will lose weight and stop clogging your arteries.

this guy hasnt posted since yesterday, i think he died

I'M ALIVE!!

I guess you didn't read the intro, I am in a body fat % competition so is a really good reason to stress my heart.

As for the cheese, I am doing carb cycling and it is showing positive results. So on my no carb days I eat cheese, then on the high carb days keep the fat low so no cheese.

Day 8 7/15/08
No EC all day. Body felt fine.

Day 9 7/16/08
12pm Wake up Dose #1
eat first meal. Chicken and Green beans.

1pm Heart beating at normal 60bpm pace but feels like its beating a little harder. No pain however.

2pm. Mild arm pain but no chest pain. Feeling good, lots of energy

4pm Still feeling good, no chest pain to report. The mild arm pain has been on and off.

I've been doing EC stack about 7-8 times/week for roughly a year now (25 mg ephedrine from a 1000 bottle I ordered in the 90s and 200 mg caffeine pill). One before boot camp in the morning MWF, and 2-3/day on the weekends. I can't do it during the day at work or I can't focus.

I've lost some weight. Mostly on the weekends I just do it as an appetite suppressant and chore motivator. I haven't been able to work out much due to shoulder problems, so boot camp is generally my only exercise, maybe some hiking or bike riding on the weekend.

I don't recommend poker on it. I get instantly thrown into a blind rage by bad beats, even moreso than usual. Not good for the BR. And I'm a little bit worried about being completely unmotivated to do stuff on the weekends, and a lot hungrier, when I go off of it. Porn/sex was a lot of fun right at first, but that's worn off now.

Day 9 7/16/08 (continued)
6 pm Lifted Arms no Cardio. Felt fine no pain.

Day 10 7/17/08
Want to do some HIIT today so I am not going to take any EC.
Body and Heart Felt good all day even during workout. Lifted Legs as well.

Day 11 7/18/08

12pm Wake up Dose 1 (full 25mg E 200mg C stack)
Weigh in 181.00lbs

12:30pm Chest pain returns.
This was my last effort with this Pain comes seemingly every time after the dose. Can't with a good mind continue this regiment.

1pm Neck pain returns. I'm throwing in the towel on EC.

Fond farewell EC.

Final Recap of 11 day EC experiment
This stuff is just too intense for me. It will make you lose weight that is for sure. But at the cost of heart damage it just isn't worth it for me. I can see why people love this stuff but it also crystal clear why the FDA banned it. If you have any sort of heart condition or even just a weak heart (ie your super fat and your heart is stressed all the time) I would stay away from EC.

Granted it effects everyone differently, from my experience there are obvious signs for when its time to stop. If you start with a half dose and work your way up to a full dose your body will tell you if you can handle it.

In the end my body did not get along with this supplement. The best advice I have if you do try the EC is listen to your body.

Wicked =/ great log though!