To me it looks like the web of threading internal to the tire came apart for some reason. I've never seen anything quite like it. It's probably no longer safe to ride.

Ride looks good - looks like you were working hard but you held on OK.

And do you know how hard it is to get 4th place on a segment around here? 1sts are done by gods and/or people in cars.

The tire kind of twisted and blew up in a lump. The tube seems to be intact.

Good to know that it is possible to merge, but I won't do that this time since the full ride is here. https://www.strava.com/activities/370480383

Yeah def changing the tire before riding again.

I was drinking yesterday and had a pretty high hearth rate even before starting. I knew I was going to suffer. I am probably about 10 kg heavier than most of the others, so I especially suffer up the hills.

Some segments are not that popular, but some other segments which have had multiple bike races are very though to get in the top 10. Don't obvious segments done by cars get removed?

You have to request it, and it takes a while

I really wish that we had some variety of group rides around here. I could do this sometimes, but it would be more enjoyable to do most group rides at slower speeds, at least until I get fitter. We have this and nothing else.

So my recommendation is: try to start a ride.

I don't know if they have places to post rides there - facebook groups, etc? Most rides around here start at a bike shop and end there, bonus points if they serve coffee or are close to someplace to eat. The shop can post your ride on their website. Shops are usually pretty nice about this, esp if they serve coffee or food. People will buy this and that in the store, tubes and seat bags and water bottles, maybe even clothes. All that stuff is super high margin (tubes and stuff are marked up like 500-1000%). People will get minor repairs there, etc. If they sell coffee half the riders will get a coffee before or after. The store my sunday ride leaves from has people in it non-stop from 8am to 1pm and that's probably 80% due to rides leaving and coming back (probably 3-4 rides leave from there every sunday)

Here's the catch: it won't catch on unless you're there, rain or shine, every week. You'll also probably have to promote it a bit by spamming people. If there's a club there approach them and ask how they'd feel about you affiliating the ride with them in some way, posting about it on their FB page, etc.

So then, you show up every week 20 minutes before the ride is posted to start. Wait 15 minutes after the ride is posted to start. If no one shows, ride by yourself (or skip it, doesn't really matter).

Nearly every group ride started this was 30 years ago - and lots of the ones around here are still going 30 years later, some of them still led by the same dude! My regular saturday morning ride was started in the mid-80s and is still going, and the guy who started it just stepped down this year (he still goes on the ride, but doesn't lead it)

Phrasing is probably going to be important - couch it as a "recovery ride" and then the badasses can come too without bruising their egos. Recovery rides are an important part of training.

Post the speed and distance prominently. (Give the speed as a range, like 16-18mph). Wouldn't hurt to have links to a map if you're going to follow a route.

Rusty, interesting tips!

I will try to make that happen

If that fails I might just occasionally take the car to Stockholm to partake in some group rides with a friend of mine.

Has anyone else ever had a garage blowout? Amazing that it held those last 20 km.

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Had a resting hearth rate of 56 bpm this morning, the lowest I've seen yet.

I tried to ride 54 km in the 'endurance zone Z1' yesterday as a sort of recovery ride. Got 119 bpm average at 24,7 kmh or 15,3 mph. My endurance zone is <116 bpm. So I have to even go slower for that.

I do think that these slow rides are good when your muscles are feeling fatigued. Yesterday does indeed feel a bit like a rest day.

Today I feel fresh, so I might do some intervals today.

Are you following a program, or just going by how you feel? Nothing wrong with either, just curious.

I have never been able to do pure zone 1 rides, I just can't make myself do it. Fortunately I don't think you have to? On my "easy" days I do "zone 1 and zone 2" and on, uh... slightly less easy days I do zone 2 only, and try to stay at the upper end of it.

Just going by feel and learning on the way. The hearth rate monitor was a great addition to my training. It even gives you a feel for your daily form. I used to just more or less push all the way through longer rides. Now i prefer to control my hearth rate unless I feel like doing some intervals on the way.

I think staying purely in zone 1 is almost impossible if you have any real hills, getting the average hr into zone 1 is of course possible, but it's very slow, perhaps too slow for cardio training. It becomes almost the same intensity as walking at that point.

Yeah exactly. A brisk walk would take me out of zone 1.

Honestly if you have a day scheduled as zone 1 you might as well do something else - go paddling or cross country skiing or something. There is zero point at riding a bike in 100% zone 1.

One thing I was going to point out, if this was after a hard ride, it could be your heart rate was suppressed. A lot of time a lower heart rate than normal is caused by fatigue. Doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't ride.

http://www.usacycling.org/encyclingp...ry.php?id=7402

"As you work through your second week of training and into your third week, you may experience slightly more variation in heart rate and an increase in perceived exertion in all heart rate ranges. It will most likely become harder for you to elevate your heart rate into the 4-5a plus zones as you build training fatigue - but that is of course part of the goal. You want to experience greater amounts of fatigue towards the end of a training block, but you also want to recognize when you are pushing your limits too far to prevent working into an overtrained state."

Also, as far as a pure Zone 1 ride, I don't think there is much reason to do one.

I don't see anything about resting hearth rate getting suppressed in that article only that it is a greater struggle to get to high hearth rate zones when fatigued. I felt somewhat fatigued after a few fast rides which is the reason i done some low intensity rides, but I never noticed that it was a struggle getting my hr up if I wanted to push.

You are correct. I know I've read that before, but could not find a good online source. I believe it states that in the Time Crunched Cyclist by Chris Carmechial. I'll find the quote later.

I ride a mountain bike on the streets and sidewalks in the city and had to avoid a car that didn't see me, hit a curb, went over the bars onto my shoulder (failed ninja/karate roll) and ended up with lowest grade separated AC joint back in May. It still frigging hurts. Now I ride the sidewalk to a park nearby and only cross one road then ride laps on the asphalt walking/riding path that is about 0.8 - 1.0 miles per lap depending on the route I choose.

A friend of mine who was overweight all our teens started cycling seriously like 3 years ago. 3 years ago he was like 15 kg over normal weight by BMI.

In the last month he did these two solo rides. I guess some people just have some natural ability

https://www.strava.com/activities/385361025

https://www.strava.com/activities/378603591

Yeah you can never trust that a motorist sees you. I always try to get eye contact with them when they are about to turn into the main road as I am approaching. Just like a week ago a car turned right in front of me without seeing me whom I barely avoided, luckily it was in town at somewhat low speed.

I have heard a lot of motorists bitching about cyclists, but having a face on both sides of the coin I find motorists way more annoying as a cyclist than i do cyclists as a motorist.

There are a few streets on the way to work that have 2-way bike lanes on one side of the road. I hate these with a passion, especially when I am going the "wrong way" as traffic sees it, because they don't look my direction at all.

Also, nearly every time I'm in one, someone turns their car into it. We are talking about a physically seperated lane (with either flexible columns or a curb) that is barely 1 car wide. Half the time I head in to work I will see someone coming the other way in the lane. Often they don't even realize it after I start yelling and waving.

Regarding your friend - former fatties are often surprising power horses. I dunno why, I guess they have big-dude-sized aerobic engines that they don't necessarily lose when they lose weight. A guy I know lost like... 150lb? And then the next year won the state time trial (in his category, which, still, is impressive). He's one of the toughest riders I know.

I guess I'm a former fatty too - this time 10 years ago I was probably 255lb, these days I waver between 170 and 175. I could probably lose 10 more lb.

Is this the official cycling thread? In.

Haha, the thread is more like the musings of a noob discovering cycling.

Nah, just joking. Just I did a search and didn't really see anything for all things cycling in the forum. Perhaps we should have a thread?

Good log here tho.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34...hread-1414054/ there's a cycling thread in OOT, but it's dead atm.