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01-21-2013 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Beat: I'm at 257 lbs, 25.7% BF.

Brag: 191 lbs lean body mass, so my weight goal is higher than I thought - 224 lbs.
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01-21-2013 , 12:23 PM
That's what the dunk tank said - it's supposed to be the most accurate so I dunno. I can scan the printout if you want.
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01-21-2013 , 12:39 PM
soulmans just jelly, and rightfully so. in a short time frame you've managed to put on more lean body mass than anyone else in this forum which is a notable accomplishment seeing as there's a few of us on steroids.
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01-21-2013 , 12:48 PM
It could also be those printouts I was getting from the machine at my gym were inaccurate. Or the dunk tank I guess. One of the guys at the gym is at 18%, and he looks pretty ripped. I'm pretty sure if I lose 30 pounds to get to 18%, I'll still look fairly pudgy. So I don't know what to think about that.
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01-21-2013 , 12:52 PM
if someone looks "ripped", i assume that to mean he has visible abs. it's an impossibilty to have visible abdominals at 18%....

cliffs: whatever machine you're using=garbage
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01-21-2013 , 12:57 PM
Well I've never seen him with his shirt off, but his legs and arms are ripped, and he has no noticeable gut. So I guess that's ripped to me since it's pretty much all I'm shooting for.
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01-21-2013 , 01:02 PM
This is the company that did the dunk tank: http://www.fitnesswave.com/portal/portal/getdunked/ They drove a truck out to our gym.
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01-21-2013 , 01:48 PM
191 lbs lbm and you are about 6'2" judging from bmi calcs upthread.

Dem genes.
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01-21-2013 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
This is the company that did the dunk tank: http://www.fitnesswave.com/portal/portal/getdunked/ They drove a truck out to our gym.
According to the company website you can use it to find your fat burning zone, so at least there is that.
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01-21-2013 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by crashjr
191 lbs lbm and you are about 6'2" judging from bmi calcs upthread.

Dem genes.
Yeah being a chunky fatass since about 10th grade is awesome. I should have been born in medieval times.

According to their printout I can eat 3612 cals/day and still lose a pound a week. LOOOOOOOLLLLLL I know that ain't right.

Also I'm 6'1" but they put me as 6' on the printout. I wonder if that messed up their calcs?

Last edited by suzzer99; 01-21-2013 at 02:06 PM.
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01-21-2013 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Yeah being a chunky fatass since about 10th grade is awesome. I should have been born in medieval times.

According to their printout I can eat 3612 cals/day and still lose a pound a week. LOOOOOOOLLLLLL I know that ain't right.
The whole thing ain't right.

You can figure all this stuff out with online calculators. You will need a scale and a tape measure.
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01-21-2013 , 04:18 PM
I retook my pics from 2008: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...7&postcount=86

Spoiler:




I look pretty much the same except for the receding hair line.
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02-07-2013 , 01:23 AM
I made a google docs spreadsheet for the ************ contest we're doing at my gym: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...pcDVVWlE#gid=0

The idea is to keep a historical record in one place where you and the other person can see it - for accountability and to see if we need to adjust. We had another girl but she seems to have lost interest. She's at 15% body fat so I'm not sure what her goal is anyway.

One question I'm struggling with is how much carbs I should be shooting for if I'm trying to keep my calories at 2500. If I do 40% of my calories from carbs - that's 250g, which seems way too high. Also I get most of my carbs from fruits, protein bars, tortillas and sprouted wheat bread.

I've heard I should try to remove all grains and get most non-fruit carbs from starchy stuff like white rice and sweet or regular potatoes. Any thoughts on this? I'm not a big fan of cooking rice or potatoes, but I guess I should learn.
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02-07-2013 , 01:47 AM
how can you ask that question after having an active log for two years? if you want to lose weight, track your calories and eat under maintenance. it is fancy play syndrome to worry too much about where your calories are coming from specifically, especially for your rando zumba classes. if you are concerned about calorie sources, eat a lot of meat and you will be fine.
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02-07-2013 , 01:56 AM
According to the dunk tank thing my maintenance is 4500 cal. I know that's way too high, so already I've got to start guessing. I'm pretty sure 2500 cal from potato chips would not be that good. I'm just trying to find the right balance, but 250g seems way too high for carbs.

Btw if you're ever in LA, feel free to come out to one of my "Zumba" classes. I'll pay for your session. It's a solid hour of serious exertion. One of the bigger guys had a heart rate monitor that said he burned 1000 cal.
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02-07-2013 , 10:18 AM
Suzzer imo toss that dunk tank printout and forget you ever saw it--it's totally bogus based on the other information you've posted in your last 10 or so posts plus your pics.

I just ran some calcs for you based on the following inputs:

Weight: 257 pounds
Height: 6'1"
Age: 42 (took a guess but iirc you're somewhere around early 40's sorry if I got that wrong)
Activity Level: Moderate (exercise 3-5 times per week)

Based on these inputs your breakeven point is estimated to be about 3500 calories per day.

To shoot for a 2 pound weekly weight loss your target would be estimated at 2500 calories daily. Looks like that's already your targeted calories, but it was unclear to me how much you want to lose each week on average.

If I was you I would stick with that for about 6-8 weeks and then adjust up or down according to your results.

As far as carbs, my advice is don't worry about it. Make sure you're getting enough protein (probably a minimum 150 grams daily for you) and stick to your caloric target and call it good for a start.
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02-07-2013 , 01:50 PM
There's a built-in column in the spreadsheet for excuses?

W
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Do you ever want to achieve at anything...ever?
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02-07-2013 , 01:56 PM
Fyi, I took a look too and agree with Jbro more or less. If you want a place to start, I'd go with a target of 2500 calories or so (or something more like 2300/2900 for nonlift/lift days if you actually are lifting heavy). As for the macro nutrient breakdown of your diet. Try to hit 200g+ of protein a day and then whatever else for the calories, it's a smaller rock than the other ones you're trying to conquer.
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02-07-2013 , 02:00 PM
Wouldnt he be better off with an app like Sparkpeople. He can plug in all the info and it will tell him everything?
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02-07-2013 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
According to the dunk tank thing my maintenance is 4500 cal. I know that's way too high, so already I've got to start guessing. I'm pretty sure 2500 cal from potato chips would not be that good. I'm just trying to find the right balance, but 250g seems way too high for carbs.

Btw if you're ever in LA, feel free to come out to one of my "Zumba" classes. I'll pay for your session. It's a solid hour of serious exertion. One of the bigger guys had a heart rate monitor that said he burned 1000 cal.


Spoiler:
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02-07-2013 , 02:16 PM
To be fair, I calculate Zumba at 900 cal/hr for myself and I am a tinybro compared to suzzer.
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02-07-2013 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The Yugoslavian
There's a built-in column in the spreadsheet for excuses?

W
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F

Do you ever want to achieve at anything...ever?
Lol, try to type something in the excuses column you tard.
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02-07-2013 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by crashjr
To be fair, I calculate Zumba at 900 cal/hr for myself and I am a tinybro compared to suzzer.
It's not Zumba, it's this place: http://www.bodyonefitness.com/

It's kind of like crossfit but more cardio, and none of the crazy weight ****. Also no competition or any of the cult stuff. And lots of hot chicks.

Typical workout is a strenuous 10 minute warmup. Then 3 15 segments where you go back and forth between two things (although there are all different formats). Typical activities:

jumping rope
wall balls
rowing
running up and down the street
deadlift
squat
slams
sumo high pulls
overhead press
good mornings
cleans
overhead press
curls
dips
jackknife
bicycles
kickups
pullups
leg lifts
straight leg lifts
kettle swings
hand release pushups
burpees
lunges
squat jumps

etc. - there's a ton more.

A lot of the hardcore people stay after and finish the weight stuff. I do that on some days when I'm not dead.

Last edited by suzzer99; 02-07-2013 at 02:51 PM.
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02-07-2013 , 02:47 PM
I just wanted to say I'm so glad this thread is going to be active this year.*

I hope to one day achieve suzzer-like levels of LBM, but it's going to take a ton of work and probably some PMs with Country Roads.

Last edited by Montecore; 02-07-2013 at 02:47 PM. Reason: *or at least this week
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02-07-2013 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The Yugoslavian
Fyi, I took a look too and agree with Jbro more or less. If you want a place to start, I'd go with a target of 2500 calories or so (or something more like 2300/2900 for nonlift/lift days if you actually are lifting heavy). As for the macro nutrient breakdown of your diet. Try to hit 200g+ of protein a day and then whatever else for the calories, it's a smaller rock than the other ones you're trying to conquer.
I do one protein shake for 50g, and usually a low carb 15g protein bar in the afternoon to keep from crashing. Could I do another protein shake, or should I try to get it all from meat?
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