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09-11-2016 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
Gonna disagree. I'll elaborate later.
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Originally Posted by BPA234
Pretty sure I know what you are going to post...looking forward to it.
well, I don't have any real grand insight or anything. But my general thoughts are:

1. the back squats, both hbbs and lbbs, are tremendous quad developers. Even if you're an irrational hater of the lbbs, you can't deny this. Anyone squatting any appreciable weight, no matter the style, is going to have jacked quads. So, plenty of anterior muscular development.

2. While I agree there's a lot of carryover from the LBBS to the DL, and it wouldn't be the end of the world if you only squatted, the DL has plenty of benefits beyond what the squat provides. The benefits to the entire back, and, especially if you're hbbs, the hamstrings, are important. Not to mention the nice side benefits to the forearms and hands, and probably something beneficial to the shoulder girdle as well.

3. I don't think any athlete is made worse by super strong, developed glutes. If that means being "posterior dominant", then so be it.

4. In general, I really don't think most standard weight room work is posterior or anterior dominant anyway. Well performed squats are about as balanced as they come. DLs are posterior dominant, but they work the quads a bunch as well. Benching and pressing are fairly balanced and skew anterior dominance.

4. athletes in general do a ton of anterior chain volume in their sport of choice. In the major american youth sports (soccer, football, baseball, basketball), plus the other big ones (vball, lacrosse, tennis, track and field), you have repeated stress to the anterior chain. You're running, jumping, and pushing all the time. A soccer player putting in miles of running with lots of short sprint bursts and all the kicking will probably find a lot of benefit in pulls and squats. I don't have data obv, but I'm guessing we'd see less hamstring injuries and torn acls in soccer if more kids could DL 2x bodyweight.

5. Kind of a continuation of #4, actual athlete strength work, as opposed to gym rats, PLers, and WLers, comprises a relatively small % of their training. My thinking on time spent in the gym vacillates. Sure, if you want to be the best sq/bn/dler, do something like sheiko or Tescherer's programming and put in a ton of volume and treat a good portion of your lifting like practice. If you're a football player, you're too ****ing busy. You have maybe 3-6 hours a week depending on where you are in the season/off-season. I don't think you're going to get too p-chain dominant with 6 or so sets of squats and 3 or so sets of DLs.


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Originally Posted by Aidan
Made my first all grain beer yesterday, fermenting away at the perfect temperature today.
09-11-2016 , 04:06 PM
Does dominance imply an imbalance of worthy subject or simply preferential usage or both?

Dominance doesn't have to mean an imbalance that puts the non-dominate at risk.

Someone who does a lot of "horizontal" movement isn't going to last long if they truly are imbalanced towards the anterior chain.
09-11-2016 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Quick_Ben

But if squatting heavy is causing you chronic hip pain, you probably are not going to accomplish a whole lot if you decide to keep squatting heavy and throw in some extra stretches or ab work or rolling or whatever as a fix.
Squatting is causing pain pathways to remain sensitized due to poor motor patterns. Whosoever this is, my cultist 2c - rest MOAR please. Go slow. Squat a style that suits you after some rehab.

When you reach a level of pain free intense squatting, there are plenty here to fix your form then so that you can up the ante. You don't need a perfect form to fix pain. You need it to lift heavy. You need rest and more rest to fix the pain.

You get me QB?

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Originally Posted by Quick_Ben
I have thoughts on APT, which I admit a lot of it comes from stuff Loco used to talk about. IMO it is not really fixable
Let me stop you there. Just squeeze your hips before you start a squat. No more APT unless you can't even tighten your hips, then you really shouldn't squat.

Agree that default postures are hard to fix but in-game you can cue up the right positions and you'll be fine but if there is pain right now - just STOP. Obv. long term bad posture is not suitable but APT is no big deal man. It's not gonna screw you up.

I have APT and this:



I ain't fixtin' none of that man. Still gonna aim for 400 Squat bare minimum. Truss me daddi.

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Originally Posted by Evoken
1.) Honestly, no, maybe not. In fact you could argue it's much better to be pchain dominant than anterior chain dominant from a functionality or health perspective.
I am anteriorly dominant and totally agree. Major weaknesses lie in my pchain and from a functional pov all I can do is sprint fast with the anterior dominance.

Loving DLs now that I can do them. Best exercise ever.
09-11-2016 , 07:38 PM
Busto and weasel meet up. Tr later!
09-11-2016 , 07:44 PM
First part of tr. Busto is awesome and I'm a drunk
09-11-2016 , 08:07 PM
Only one of those things is surprising
09-11-2016 , 08:59 PM
Can't wait to read why it went wrong in the 2nd part
09-11-2016 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Syndr0m
Can't wait to read why it went wrong in the 2nd part
My prediction:

Spoiler:

One of them is wearing 2 pairs of underwear
09-11-2016 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Weasel45
Busto and weasel meet up. Tr later!
09-11-2016 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nuclear500
But apparently he's dumb enough to say something like that? Smart guy there.

For being so incredibly intelligent and unwilling to educate - you'd think he'd learn to put people on his ignore list, like I did.
There are two points here. Both stupid.

1) He is making an assumption that this was not discussed with the mod in question. Shockingly when I am asked to not post something, I frequently ask what is acceptable to post. This may seem weird to people, but in order to alleviate workload on moderation I generally comply (sometimes).
2) He makes a false equivalence between his prior comment implying that I had did something "unacceptable" and the ignore list. I like reading dumb comments. They make me laugh and, on occasion, give me a chance to pontificate on topics.

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Originally Posted by BPA234
Or because, after obnoxiously disrespecting someone, we don't want to get stomped on ?
Eh. Pretty sure you (and everyone) has definitely excused themselves from a conversation with a less than polite exit. IE "Great meeting you." when someone is telling an inane story. "On that note..." etc.

People do this **** all the time. On the internet there is no way to escape pervasive idiocy. Someone who said routinely stupid things would just get shunned in reality, or they'd find friends of a similar intellectual level. This is what is great about the internet! We get a chance to talk to people from all walks of life! I'd never get a chance to speak to nuclear because he is probably of a lower social class and not very smart and says ridiculous things. Any one of these three for a man is a deal breaker, but here I get to read him talk about anterior dominance without ever understanding what is anterior or posterior! I even get messages from other people making fun of his posts!


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Originally Posted by loco
Not a fan myself. Definitely one of my top3 want to get into the boxing ring posters from this forum.

Snitch
Syndrom
Nuclear

Just want to unleash a barrage of fists at their face.
Is this a real boxing match? Or do you just want to powerbomb them?


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Originally Posted by nuclear500
Does dominance imply an imbalance of worthy subject or simply preferential usage or both?

Dominance doesn't have to mean an imbalance that puts the non-dominate at risk.

Someone who does a lot of "horizontal" movement isn't going to last long if they truly are imbalanced towards the anterior chain.
This is exactly what I mean! I've seen cum swapping videos with less useless drivel spewing from their secondary (open to debate) sexual orifices.

Holy ****. Citation pls!

But really. What does "worthy subject" mean? Sounds like one of them made up phrases so no one asks so you can keep saying really stupid **** and no one contradicts you.
09-11-2016 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
Is this a real boxing match? Or do you just want to powerbomb them?
Don't know about the others, but Snitch actually boxes and loco has been going on (semi-jokingly) about fighting him for years. There's a small chance the two of them end up in a ring with gloves on and are at least sparring.
09-11-2016 , 10:52 PM
Thremp: there is a way to escape idiocy on some areas of the Internet. Just as some people are shunned irl due to being socially inept, sometimes people are shunned online via the method of banning. Sometimes the person is so socially inept that they come back repeatedly and get banned for their social ineptitude until finally people take pity on them and collectively decide to not ban them. Just wanted to clear up that minor detail. Great post though...
09-11-2016 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Thremp: there is a way to escape idiocy on some areas of the Internet. Just as some people are shunned irl due to being socially inept, sometimes people are shunned online via the method of banning. Sometimes the person is so socially inept that they come back repeatedly and get banned for their social ineptitude until finally people take pity on them and collectively decide to not ban them. Just wanted to clear up that minor detail. Great post though...
Is this like when you use powers of moderation in a sub not your own to squelch discussion after you get thoroughly abused?

Just for clarity obviously. Great post tho!
09-11-2016 , 11:03 PM
Might want to reread the post. Nothing like that.
09-11-2016 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Might want to reread the post. Nothing like that.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! While everyone has a right to an opinion, not all opinions are created equal. Your opinion, for example, is ****.

Best of luck with thinking critically in the future!
09-11-2016 , 11:08 PM
Thremp you seem angry. I guess for some reason that post cut deep. Any resemblance to your current situation is purely coincidental, I assure you.

Try to relax. It's been fun...
09-11-2016 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes


Shave you lazy bastards
09-11-2016 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Thremp you seem angry. I guess for some reason that post cut deep. Any resemblance to your current situation is purely coincidental, I assure you.

Try to relax. It's been fun...
What do you mean?

I thought we were making fun of you for disrespecting the forum mods when you went all pyscho on SS. (Oh mai. Here I am arguing for a commonly dissenting viewpoint to have his right to say crazy ****.)

Or maybe we're making fun of you for your crazy view of English? I don't really know anymore! (what is raising?)
09-11-2016 , 11:20 PM
Trying to set a record for making the most intentionally obtuse statements in one post. It's a bold strategy.

Edit: just got what that last bit was about. Lolololol the irony.

Last edited by Bluegrassplayer; 09-11-2016 at 11:33 PM.
09-11-2016 , 11:39 PM
I'd ake a standardized reading comp test for anywhere between 20-50k. lmk if you interested. Obviously that you requires you to get to USA#1.

But sure, my reading comprehension is poor!
09-12-2016 , 12:13 AM
I can only imagine. lol


So I assume he took issue with what I wrote (again). Does someone worthy of respect want to also disagree or ask me to clarify? I'd happily engage in that sort of thing when done right and not through misplaced arrogance and dumb intelligence.

I don't pretend to know everything even if the words written somehow come across that way.

As for fighting loco: small chance it happens with any of us. I wouldn't avoid it, but I'm also not going to go out of my way to make it happen.
09-12-2016 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by nuclear500
I can only imagine. lol


So I assume he took issue with what I wrote (again). Does someone worthy of respect want to also disagree or ask me to clarify? I'd happily engage in that sort of thing when done right and not through misplaced arrogance and dumb intelligence.

I don't pretend to know everything even if the words written somehow come across that way.

As for fighting loco: small chance it happens with any of us. I wouldn't avoid it, but I'm also not going to go out of my way to make it happen.
I like how i get personally attacked in the beginning. I'd offer our homie here a similar challenge on some sort of standardized testing for a worthwhile amount. Or maybe a prop bet on what anterior means.

Some perspective: Obviously what he wrote was wholesale stupid. In fact, I'd be shocked if any sane person read what he wrote and thought anything other than "lol nuculol".

Most people who engage in discourse don't pretend to know everything. Most of us learn new things everyday as science is changing all the time. The problem is when you come from preordained truth (natural, religious, forum poster, etc). Or on the other hand you're just a full on ****tard who just says random **** without having any idea what the words mean and is so ignorant that they'd rather bury their heads in the sand than face reality.

Since I'm not "respected" or smth.
09-12-2016 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes
So ****ing jelly
09-12-2016 , 01:24 AM
Jesus, if i was in charge i'd ban you all
09-12-2016 , 02:27 AM
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