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01-16-2009 , 08:15 PM
I recently bought a juicer by referral from a friend. I do not regret the purchase, but I still have questions on the overall nutrition factor of making juices at home.

-Am I receiving more nutrients from juices I can buy in stores?
-Is juicing the equivalent of eating the vegetables/fruits minus the fiber?
-Can juicing replace eating vegetables/fruits?
-What juicing recipes do you enjoy?

Thanks.
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01-16-2009 , 08:28 PM
-Am I receiving more nutrients from juices I can buy in stores?
Yes, asuming you talk cheap juice
-Is juicing the equivalent of eating the vegetables/fruits minus the fiber?
Yes, and I think you are supposed to not filter the juice, thus still getting the fiber
-Can juicing replace eating vegetables/fruits?
It is still vegetables/fruits just mashed up badly
-What juicing recipes do you enjoy?
Cant help here, I prefer to eat fruit and veggies whole.
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01-16-2009 , 08:38 PM
If you mash the veggies and fruits, are they suddenly no longer veggies and fruits?
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01-17-2009 , 12:01 AM
bad title interpretation, i have nothing to add
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01-17-2009 , 02:01 AM
Use orange juice as a base for most fruit juices.

I think orange, pineapple, strawberry is delicious. I would do 50% OJ, 40% pineapple, and 10% strawberry. Adjust as desired.
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01-25-2010 , 01:42 AM
no matter what you juice, if you put an apple or orange in with it it tastes great. I juice all the time and love the health benefits and the high energy I get from it. as stated when you juice you get all and even more of the nutrients from the fruits and vegges because your body doesnt have to work to break them down, it is essentially pre digested and only needs to be absorbed by your body. I suggest everybody get a juicer. there are a lot of good juicing videos on you tube, check out the liferegenerator he has a ton of great videos on youtube.
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01-25-2010 , 02:58 AM
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bad title interpretation, i have nothing to add
This
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01-25-2010 , 03:16 AM
I too thought of something else when I saw the thread title.

I've been thinking about getting a juicer for a little while mostly because I have found no way to juice ginger that is not an epic pain in the ass and the stuff I can find in a bottle doesn't compare to when I suck it up and grate and press it or whatever.
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01-25-2010 , 01:31 PM
Even if you don't necessarilly care for them whole, add bannanas to most of your smoothies. It adds texture and a sweeter taste when mixing with vegies without leaving that sugary taste in your teeth like you just had a slurpee from 7/11 type feeling. If you don't believe me, take whatever you are going to put in your smoothie and have half the smoothie with banana and one without.

<3 the title
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08-30-2011 , 06:39 AM
I just got a juicer too and am trying a 3-day juice detox. The recipes are in the book that came with the juicer. The one I had for breakfast involved apples, beetroot, carrot, yellow pepper, celery, lemon, broccoli and cucumber.

It seems I'll be spending most of my time washing up the many parts of the juicer.

Have any of you seen Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv3vEXy_EwU

I got the juicer after seeing the trucker lose so much weight in that film. But then I was talking to a friend who's a doctor, and he told me he thought trying to live for an extended period of time on juice to kickstart drastic ************ was a really bad idea. But he's a psychiatrist, not a nutritionist.

I'm not sure what the truth is, but of course I know what's needed is long-term lifestyle change, exercise, etc, not just juice. And I don't know how long I could go without eating solid food without going completely crazy. Maybe juicing would work best to replace just one meal, then - in my case dinner, when I normally binge on junk.
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08-30-2011 , 07:21 AM
lol detoxaments. Juicing typically means something else in a H&F context FYI.
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08-30-2011 , 07:40 AM
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lol detoxaments. Juicing typically means something else in a H&F context FYI.
Oh, what?
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08-30-2011 , 08:24 AM
Steroids.
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08-30-2011 , 09:10 AM
Golly!
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08-30-2011 , 11:09 AM
I did a juicing diet for 5 days, it consisted of 3-4 vegetable juices and 2 smoothies a day. For the vegetable juice i used apple, carrot, kale, celery, broccoli, cucumber, lettuce, beet and little ginger. For smoothies 1/2 cup of water or ice, blueberries, strawberries, mango and pineapple. Beginning of the fast sucked but 2 days later I felt great. I am experimenting with different recipes, but i think its important to mix both green and red vegetables.
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08-30-2011 , 11:17 AM
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08-30-2011 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mlodykutas
I did a juicing diet for 5 days, it consisted of 3-4 vegetable juices and 2 smoothies a day. For the vegetable juice i used apple, carrot, kale, celery, broccoli, cucumber, lettuce, beet and little ginger. For smoothies 1/2 cup of water or ice, blueberries, strawberries, mango and pineapple. Beginning of the fast sucked but 2 days later I felt great. I am experimenting with different recipes, but i think its important to mix both green and red vegetables.
For anyone who may unknowingly think advice to "juice fast" or "juice cleanse" has any merit, please know that it is snake oil and has no basis in reality. How a diet consisting of sugar, carbs, no fat and little to no protein can be thought of as "cleansing" is completely beyond the rational mind.

For those interested in detox, well don't remove your lungs, kidneys, liver or colon and you should be off to a good start.
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08-30-2011 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by downtown
For anyone who may unknowingly think advice to "juice fast" or "juice cleanse" has any merit, please know that it is snake oil and has no basis in reality. How a diet consisting of sugar, carbs, no fat and little to no protein can be thought of as "cleansing" is completely beyond the rational mind.

For those interested in detox, well don't remove your lungs, kidneys, liver or colon and you should be off to a good start.
So you think this guy/site is pure snake oil?

http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/
http://jointhereboot.com/

Something about calcium here:

http://jointhereboot.com/health-faq-...ing-my-reboot/

Last edited by luckyjimm; 08-30-2011 at 11:46 AM.
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08-30-2011 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by downtown
For anyone who may unknowingly think advice to "juice fast" or "juice cleanse" has any merit, please know that it is snake oil and has no basis in reality. How a diet consisting of sugar, carbs, no fat and little to no protein can be thought of as "cleansing" is completely beyond the rational mind.

For those interested in detox, well don't remove your lungs, kidneys, liver or colon and you should be off to a good start.
I am not sure why some people are against a juice fast? People do it all the time and have great results. We are talking about juicing for 3, 5 maybe 10 days. We are not talking about drinking juice for the rest of your life without any food.

"So you think this guy/site is pure snake oil?

http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/
http://jointhereboot.com/

Something about calcium here:

http://jointhereboot.com/health-faq-...ing-my-reboot/"
This guy Joe in the links above goes into detail about juicing and how it helped him get off meds and loose a lot of weight. Watch his movie, its free on Netflix.
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08-30-2011 , 12:03 PM
People are against it because there is no evidence behind the testable claims made. Testimonials are not evidence, and the most obvious observed effects (eg. weight loss) are simply an effect of a sudden caloric deprivation and deficit. Nothing magical about the juice.

http://www.skepdic.com/detox.html
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08-30-2011 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by luckyjimm
So you think this guy/site is pure snake oil?

http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/
http://jointhereboot.com/

Something about calcium here:

http://jointhereboot.com/health-faq-...ing-my-reboot/
Yes.
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08-30-2011 , 12:08 PM
Here's something on protein:

http://jointhereboot.com/the-p-word-...g-your-reboot/
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08-30-2011 , 12:12 PM
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Here are some questions for you to think about:

What are the kcals and macros of the juicing diet (short or longer term) that you're recommending?

What are the effects of using such a diet (same macros and kcals) with traditional foods? (hint: anklebreaker already answered this)

Where is the evidence that juicing (again with same kcals and macros as traditional food diet) is superior?
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08-30-2011 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by anklebreaker
People are against it because there is no evidence behind the testable claims made. Testimonials are not evidence, and the most obvious observed effects (eg. weight loss) are simply an effect of a sudden caloric deprivation and deficit. Nothing magical about the juice.

http://www.skepdic.com/detox.html
Forgetting weight loss for a moment. I've seen many cases that people were able to reverse their diabetes and get off high blood pressure and other medication when converting to juice for some time. I understand that crappy processed food is a huge contributor to diabetes and other diseases, no doubt about that.
By saying that there is nothing magical about the juice you are saying that drinking juice has no benefit whatsoever right? By the same understanding I am suspecting that there is no difference between Tropicana OJ and fresh squeezed OJ? Correct me if I am wrong.
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08-30-2011 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mlodykutas
Forgetting weight loss for a moment. I've seen many cases that people were able to reverse their diabetes and get off high blood pressure and other medication when converting to juice for some time. I understand that crappy processed food is a huge contributor to diabetes and other diseases, no doubt about that.
By saying that there is nothing magical about the juice you are saying that drinking juice has no benefit whatsoever right? By the same understanding I am suspecting that there is no difference between Tropicana OJ and fresh squeezed OJ? Correct me if I am wrong.
If the bold bit were true, it would have been published in a properly controlled study in a peer-reviewed journal.
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