I don't get this - won't working his core just make everything bigger? I would think diet / cardio is the way to go to lose fat.

I don't think he's anywhere near 13% and that seems pretty wrong. I'm just wondering how you came to your conclusion. You seem to routinely put people on a higher range than I would.

one time i was drinking carrot juice for 2 days straight... I **** you not a shat a carrot!!!!

Pinch an inch(about 2 1/2 millimeters). Pinch less you're okay.

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Anterior pelvic tilt can produce a bulge that looks exactly like yours, although to my inexpert eye it doesn't look like you actually have APT.

It will make your core bigger with muscle, though. And tighter. That could help hold in the fat. Also, doing deadlifts can stimulate your system enough to burn fat, making your guts simply have less to push out there. When I was in one of my many deadlift-crazed phases, I ate to the point of being nauseous every day, did no aerobics or stomach exercise at all, and got a sixpack anyway. Since my waist thickened, I didn't lose a belt notch, but it looks and feels a lot better when there's a thick rind of relatively fat-free muscle around your beltline than when you've got fat blooping over it.

That's what I mean when I say you have to make your choices. You could alternatively try to keep your waist narrow and relatively muscle free by aerobics and starving yourself, and that seems like a very popular choice. It works and makes your waist look slimmer than doing deadlifts, but you won't be anywhere near as strong and the rest of your body won't look anywhere near as good as your waist.

Which is why I asked for a better picture. Could also be hyper-lordosis among other things.

I would probably guess it is #2 as well.

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In my experience, adding muscles makes parts of your body tighter, but still bigger. This is not OP's goal

Agree with the rest of your post. But it seems to me that if you want to lose weight on your stomach, the most direct way is to lose weight, not to build muscle because that in turn will eventually burn fat. I guess this is more of a question of long term vs short term goals.

Yes it is. Short term goals that confound your long term ones are ultimately more destructive than helpful.

Don't forget that the type of exercise that put lots of muscle on all over stimulate your hormonal system in a way that all the endurance and isolation exercise in the world never will. That makes a big difference in burning fat and gaining muscle both. That takes exercise beyond mere workload or intensity and adds something irreplaceable you can't get anywhere else -- systemic response. You can't curl or sit-up your way into it.

Further, if OP's goal is to not have his stomach bulge out, tighter stomach muscles should help shore up his pelvic floor and belly in general. Endurance exercises will build those muscles to a minimum and exceedingly slowly, whereas deadlifts will build them very quick and strong.

Additionally, the growth in muscle size prompted by endurance exercise tends toward sarcoplasmic growth and lower residual tension. Strength exercises tend to promote myofibrillar growth, which results in increased residual tension. The greater residual tension in your gut muscles prompted by myofibrillar as opposed to sarcoplasmic growth is more likely to hold in your gut than the more relaxed muscle produced by endurance work.

You say this a lot, and I hear it a lot, but I would really like to see some evidence.

I hate to get all anecdotal but the majority of skinny people I know are runners / swimmers and most people in the weightroom could stand to lose a few pounds.

you arent as lean as u think u are.

and you bloat more than most people

I'm lazy for looking at pubmed. But I'm sure you can find sources to verify that heavy compound movements create an anabolic milieu (Not my saying, though I wish it was) in the body.

Though I don't agree with what Blarg is saying. To get a really strong V taper/X shape, you need to completely eliminate DLing. It is probably THE most counterproductive exercise to achieving elite levels of shape.

lol my guts like 5x OP's and i was a skinny man 6 months ago... i wouldnt care if i was never the same "size" as i was before... i'm more concerned about how i 'appear' (to the women obv)

You don't think you had any part of that? You said you gained a bunch of unhealthy weight from eating more....... Durrr. Do you drink a lot? Did you quit exercising? Don't be foolish. Different people put fat in different places. Your just lucky your not a pear ass person. Lmfao

DUPA!

What do you mean by elite levels of shape? Also, what exercises would you recommend?

Like a lightweight bodybuilder shape. Flex Wheeler type shape. Like huge limbs, little waist, etc etc etc. Of course if you wanna be shaped like a greek god, then you'll need a massive waist and some marginal love handles.

Its a tricky thing to develop appreciable levels of mass without compound movements. I'd suggest starting with Winstrol and moving from there.

he means pro bodybuilder physique aka looking like a shaven ******. any guy who wants a narrow waist and accordingly avoids DLs is a tard imo. hench guys with tiny waists look ridiculous.

This is a good example.



As are all things Flex Wheeler.

Gross

He does look pretty weird to me. Biceps especially look way too big for the rest of his body.

I think you can use DL's to help put on lots of mass, then taper off them later if you want a narrower waist. Just use them as a tool for a while then hop off the train when you've got where you're going. It doesn't have to be all one way or all the other.

Doing deads will of course lessen the drama of the V shape, as Thremp says. I know I was pretty disappointed when I first started DL'ing that after months of it had made me much bigger and stronger, and I even had that sixpack to boot, I hadn't really lost much size around my waist at all. I wound up thickly muscled there, but ... there's your trade-offs again. No matter what you do, you'll have to give up something.