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squats are high and your knees never stop moving. ignore everything you have thought up about not being good at using your hamstrings or having muscle imbalances and focus on solidifying your form and getting twice as strong.

watch ripply toes' knees here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVKEl4Wxoqc

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10-14-2011 , 09:36 PM

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sayid_the_saviour

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Originally Posted by JL514

any tips on this? am squatting again tonight

if it hurts when you squat, don't squat. have someone run the FMS on you

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10-15-2011 , 01:10 AM

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funkyfood

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miles, isn't rip GMing on those?

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10-15-2011 , 01:57 AM

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milesdyson

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back angle never decreases. it does stay the same for a moment out of the hole, but that's fine.

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10-15-2011 , 06:41 AM

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JammyDodga

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Originally Posted by funkyfood

155 squat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eVtObUPUDM

looks like your lower back is over extended, it should feel more natural.

Spend a little more time getting set under the bar - focus on your shoulders and back being right before you lift.

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10-15-2011 , 07:00 AM

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Ra_Z_Boy

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Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf

how exactly does the # of reps factor into results and why is the 5 rep workout viewed as being the best?
like why is 5 > 8 or say 10 in terms of reps.

i.e.
what's the difference between doing 3x8 compared to 3x5 for say squats or rows or whatever

does 5 reps accomplish something that 8 or 10 doesn't and vice-versa?

5 will utilise a heavier load and also is less reps so for beginners their form is less likely to break down than if higher reps were used. It's not like 3x8 won't get results though.

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10-15-2011 , 09:14 AM

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llaa

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Originally Posted by milesdyson

back angle never decreases. it does stay the same for a moment out of the hole, but that's fine.

I deffinetly have a tendency to GM my squats a bit but when i focus on really keeping my chest up out of the hole i feel like I loose hip-drive and weight feels 1.3x as heavy and I get hipflexor/front thigh pain(Injured hipflexors previously due to ****ty form). Any thoughts on why this may be/ what cue might help?

I should probably just post a video

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10-15-2011 , 11:23 AM

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funkyfood

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Originally Posted by milesdyson

i've been told by people on this board and a SS coach i worked out with once that my hamstrings are "piss-ass weak" and considering my inability to lift light weights out of the hole, i'm inclined to think they're right.

re: solidifying my form, if i could, i would. you say my knees "never stop moving", do you mean forward or out? how can i fix that?

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10-15-2011 , 11:30 AM

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YetioDoom

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friendly reminder there is a form check thread

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10-16-2011 , 01:40 AM

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So I was at my gym today and I did some declined situps. Once I finished a trainer came up and asked me why I doing the declined rather than laying flat on the ground. I said just cause. (really didn't want to talk to the guy)

He then goes on to explain how declines are pointless and can hurt my back and that only 'nuts' need to do declines. Then of course he tries to sell me on a training session... uh cool story bro. (training sessions start at 80 an hour min if you purchase at least 10 sessions, already gotten the sales spheel when I joined my gym)

Anyways, wtf is this guy talking about.

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10-16-2011 , 02:31 AM

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Hardball47

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Has anyone incorporated PCs with 5/3/1? And how?

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10-16-2011 , 02:36 AM

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bixby snyder

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Originally Posted by SenatorKevin

So I was at my gym today and I did some declined situps. Once I finished a trainer came up and asked me why I doing the declined rather than laying flat on the ground.

So, why are you doing declined situps/situps at all?

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10-16-2011 , 05:18 AM

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Soulman

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Originally Posted by Hardball47

Has anyone incorporated PCs with 5/3/1? And how?

IIRC Wendler recommends warming up to your DLs with PCs.

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10-16-2011 , 01:27 PM

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SenatorKevin

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Originally Posted by bixby snyder

So, why are you doing declined situps/situps at all?

Because I wanted to?

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10-16-2011 , 06:22 PM

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nuclear500

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http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLi...Standards.html

Are the weights talked about on this site fairly reliable?

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10-16-2011 , 07:04 PM

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matti5

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Say you're doing press and after you finish the 4th rep you know you're not gonna get that 5th rep, is it a good idea to push press on the 5th rep or should you just go for it anyway?

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10-16-2011 , 07:31 PM

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00Snitch

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I think you are ignoring the obvious... just rack it.

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10-16-2011 , 09:01 PM

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Pork Fri Rize

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Originally Posted by matti5

Say you're doing press and after you finish the 4th rep you know you're not gonna get that 5th rep, is it a good idea to push press on the 5th rep or should you just go for it anyway?

Seems like your failure is at 4th rep, so stop?

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10-16-2011 , 09:59 PM

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trontron

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i'm gonna start SS on tuesday. just a quick question: i squat and dl every workout in the first few weeks (and alternate bench/press), is this correct? i'm quite sure i read it here many times that this is recommended in the beginning for newbs, but can't find it atm on the wiki or the book... is this from PPST or just a forumpost from rip?

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10-16-2011 , 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 00Snitch

I think you are ignoring the obvious... just rack it.

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Originally Posted by Pork Fri Rize

Seems like your failure is at 4th rep, so stop?

Why is push pressing and making a note of it worse than stopping?

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10-17-2011 , 12:11 AM

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Phatony

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There's absolutely nothing wrong with push pressing it.

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10-17-2011 , 12:42 AM

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00Snitch

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I dunno... Why not just do push presses if you want to push press? It's a pretty different movement to a press. Is doing one push press (a power movement) when fatigued really achieving anything?

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10-17-2011 , 12:59 AM

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Phatony

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It's just one of those couldn't matter less things. If he really wants to make sure he hits 5 reps for whatever psychological reason, and occasionally pping allows that, then whatever.

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10-17-2011 , 01:18 AM

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TomHimself

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Originally Posted by funkyfood

thanks for the answer. for #2, my quads are much stronger than my posterior chain, so when weight starts to get heavy (for me), i can't use my PC to get out of the hole and invariably lean forward to use my quads. i figured that if i did box squats to strengthen my hamstrings, they would allow me to squat heavier.

i'm not very good at using my hamstrings: when i try RDLs, GMs, or deadlifts, my back does most the work...i cant figure out how to "activate" them with those, but box squats made me use them

did you have knee surgery in the past? i thought i remember reading that.

i had it for my acl and they used some of my hamstring in the surgery and i feel the same way with regards to activating as so forth