****Official Beginner Question Thread****

[cookie]

Originally Posted by GameDoneChanged

The book I have recommends a 3 day/week routine involving all the bread and butter (squats/deads/pull-overs/rows/curls) in 3 sets and about 8-10 reps. It also advocates just eating lots of whatever you feel like for bulking up initially, with no addressing of protein/carbs intake amounts or anything until after 4 weeks or so...

1. Are 3 sets definitely right?

2. Is the diet advice legit??

You dont even mention the name of the book...

[kyleb]

1. Yes. Well, warmups are not included.
2. Pretty much. Depends on your goals.

Wait. I thought that you were talking about Starting Strength. Now I see curls. So my amended answer is:

1. Absolutely not.

[GameDoneChanged]

wtf I don't know how people proceed in weight lifting when there is so much conflicting advice and everybody is apparently so ldo sure they have it right.

I can find texts that advocate 1 sets and others that advocate 3 sets for the first month, goal being bulk up and prepare for 6 months of body building.

Doesn't everyone get frustrated?!

[kyleb]

Nope. Read the FAQ. It makes it pretty simple.

[milesdyson]

Originally Posted by GameDoneChanged

wtf I don't know how people proceed in weight lifting when there is so much conflicting advice and everybody is apparently so ldo sure they have it right.

I can find texts that advocate 1 sets and others that advocate 3 sets for the first month, goal being bulk up and prepare for 6 months of body building.

Doesn't everyone get frustrated?!

be skeptical of everyone and be results oriented. look online for logs for any routine you hear about. you'll find a ton of SS logs not only here but everywhere on the internet, and you'll see better results in these than most others.

[Thremp]

Or learn about dual factor theory and why linear progression is superior.

[JohnnyFondue]

Originally Posted by Soulman

Serious question: is there a big point in finishing novice progress before cutting? Or is it fine to cut mid-way, then go back to bulking after cut + maintenance? For people who care about medium t-shirts and all I mean

I too would like to know the answer to this.

[GameDoneChanged]

Originally Posted by kyleb

Nope. Read the FAQ. It makes it pretty simple.

thank you for demonstrating my point

[kyleb]

No. Read the FAQ. It doesn't just tell you what you should be doing. It explains the physiological reasons why. If you don't care to read that or understand why you are lifting and how to do it, then obviously you won't get it and will be frustrated. So actually give a a **** and put 10 hours into trying to understand something and stop complaining.

[theblackkeys]

Originally Posted by SmileyEH

I've never seen anyone recommend this, but I started pressing and benching before back squats. My shoulders aren't tired anymore before I start and have been making good progress.

I've been considering this as well. Sounds like a fine idea to me as long as there is a bit of a rest given between squats and any heavy leg work after.

[JohnnyFondue]

I went to the gym on sunday, and for the second time in history there was actually someone squatting with the squat rack. He sucked really bad, but took a good 15 min to finish whatever he was doing. Here is my question:

Would it be a good idea or bad idea to warm up on the leg press machine while waiting to use the squat rack?

[anklebreaker]

jf,

There are so many things you could do that are better uses of time than warming up on a leg-press. To name a few: mobility drills, activation work, rufus complex with an olympic barbell, warm-up front squats or goblet squats, etc

[JohnnyFondue]

OK that makes sense. I just worked on stretching and getting more warmed up, I didn't think it was the best use of my time, but I'll look into more of that stuff you just mentioned. I'll post links to what I find here.

[JohnnyFondue]

Rufus Complex:

All exercises performed for 5 reps with empty bar

Clean from above knee
Clean from knee level
Clean from below knee level
Military Press
Front squat
Front lunge (bar in across front of shoulders)
Push Press
Back squat
Lunge
Good Morning
Push Press behind neck-Snatch Grip
RDL
Bent-over Row
Muscle snatch
Snatch from above knee
Snatch from knee level
Snatch from Below knee level

Would this be considered more of a metcon than a warm up? Or can that be one in the same?

[Barge Ass]

I think its a good metcon for people like us. Its maybe a little tech but whatever its only 45 pounds. Probably in warmup territory for more advanced lifters, but a little excessive.