****Official Beginner Question Thread**** - Page 2

Barge Ass · 11-23-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFondue

This will probably sound super noobish and really show my true colors, but if I have really really stalled on a lift, but am still making gains on the rest of my lifts in SS, would I switch to something like Texas Method for the one lift while still gaining in the rest of my lifts doing SS?

Or would I just keep doing assistance exercises, resets, and micro loading and hope for the best?

Pretty sure it depends on what lift stalled. You can do an intensive reset for that lift only. You should only switch to TM once your deadlift stalls once and/or squats stall 2 times. The press will give out first as it uses the least/smallest muscles.

Barge Ass · 11-23-2009, 12:32 AM

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...nd_Progressing

Barge Ass · 11-23-2009, 12:36 AM

How often can I reset before I know it's time to move on?
Generally only 2 resets for the squat and perhaps 1 for the deadlift will be done before it's time to move on. As long as these 2 exercises are still moving up, however, there is no need to change programming. If you need to do a "bigtime reset" as described above, or if you are stalling on multiple exercises at once, then it is time to move on as well.
Don't reset if you've only stalled in the press, bench, or powerclean. As long as your deadlift, and especially your squat, are moving up you are making progress. Stick with it.

JohnnyFondue · 11-23-2009, 01:34 AM

Yeah it's mainly my press. Just keep at it I guess. I'm just super tired of failing reps on the press over and over. Tx BA

Soulman · 11-23-2009, 03:52 AM

Johnny,

are you microloading the press?

Barge Ass · 11-23-2009, 07:47 AM

The preyesss is getting super tough for me too, especially after a 5RM squat.

Soulman · 11-23-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Barge Ass

The preyesss is getting super tough for me too, especially after a 5RM squat.

Where's your log at brah?

**SmileyEH** · 11-23-2009, 09:17 AM

I've never seen anyone recommend this, but I started pressing and benching before back squats. My shoulders aren't tired anymore before I start and have been making good progress.

Duerig · 11-23-2009, 11:14 AM

Seems like pressing before back squats is a bad idea - won't that tire out your back and make squatting more dangerous? I thought that was the reason squat always comes first.

**SmileyEH** · 11-23-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Duerig

Seems like pressing before back squats is a bad idea - won't that tire out your back and make squatting more dangerous?

I have a really really hard time believing that, but I could be wrong.

Squats come first because they are the most important. Also, if you are doing a 2 lower body exercises and an upper (bench, squat, dl for example) then it makes sense to break the lower body one's up.

Duerig · 11-23-2009, 11:54 AM

Why should something come first because it's most important? I imagine if there were a good reason to put squats last, it would be listed that way in SS, with the caveat that if you're only going to do one lift, you do squat.

I read that you squat before you deadlift for the reason I listed above, and assumed this was the case for squatting before press / clean as well. That could be a bad assumption on my part, I dunno.

**SmileyEH** · 11-23-2009, 12:02 PM

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Why should something come first because it's most important?

Most rested physically, most able to focus (especially for a lift requiring a lot of concentration like a squat).

I'm just saying personally I've gotten better results doing pressing exercises first because my shoulders aren't unnecessarily fatigued.

fullontilt87 · 11-23-2009, 01:17 PM

So I'm 19, 6''1 155 lbs and I want to gain weight. I've been working out, mostly with weights, for about 2 months 2-3 times a week. I recently started implementing running and spinning. I just read about GOMAD and I want to try it out and combine it with strong lifts 5x5. I just have a couple of questions. I apologize if the answers are really trivial and easy to look up, I just haven't been able to find them (although I haven't looked very hard ldo)

Do strong lifts completely replace your regular workout? If so, does that mean I should stop doing cardio?

From my understanding squats make your ass bigger. I really don't want this to happen. I want my ass to be nicely shaped and firm, but not huge. Is this gonna be a problem if I do squats? Should I just stick to running and spinning? Or can I combine the two?

What impact does body shape have on how useful this program is?

Also I typically only get between 6.5-7.5 hrs of sleep. Is this a big problem?

Thanks in advance

Duerig · 11-23-2009, 01:26 PM

Okay, I'm glad this is in the beginner thread b/c I am really confused now.

- Do your shoulders get tired from squatting?

- If you think squat is the most important lift and the most important lift should come first due to focus, etc, why don't you do it first?

**SmileyEH** · 11-23-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Duerig

Okay, I'm glad this is in the beginner thread b/c I am really confused now.

- Do your shoulders get tired from squatting?

- If you think squat is the most important lift and the most important lift should come first due to focus, etc, why don't you do it first?

1. Low bar back squatting, yes.

2. Because the tiny benefit I get from doing squats first is outweighed by the fact they mess up my bench or press sets.