True. AJ you should move to Russia, China or Bulgaria in that order.

The coach ranking is based on what they've done with athletes...so it's about as good as it's going to get...

Gym or personal practice? Not that I'm interested in weightlifting, but I drive through Franklin daily.

Not sure. I think it's a gym. 72 Grove Street suite 1 and 2. They have several coaches on staff including a couple at international level. Awaiting pricing/details before committing. I really just need a few sessions to work on my squat

I got excited when I found "MA strength" with an international Chinese coach. Turned out he's between FL and China and
MA means donkey or something. No Chinese strong for me.

You troll the beginner thread repeatedly, but I think the lack of clarity in your thinking is obvious and most beginners could see through your personal attacks and muddled attempts at thought.

AJ is essentially a beginner dealing with prior injury. Much like the comical derail that Synbro dropped citing bar whip as a technical reason for hip bend in the jerk, many people who train high end national or international athletes would have any experience attempting to handle someone with an injury.

Considering you just made a silly rant about his prior injury history (which is insane, his issues are in mobility, not in ripping his spine out of his back when he rounds) your comments are asinine.

You literally just took a "sort by who won the lottery of people washing out of a real sport and/or gave kids tons of drugs without getting popped".

Why don't you talk to someone who actually has been taught by these people? Do you think that someone who is focusing on getting a stronger rebound out of the hole for someone looking to sqat 300+ is really a reasonable person to be coaching you?

Maybe? My goal is to squat like a pro, bro. Not sure about being a beginner. I've squatted 300+ and am currently struggling around 210. I've also pulled around 2.7x* bodyweight and was pretty consistent progressing all of my lifts for 2+ years.

I think I'm re-gaining lost strength from a long mostly sedentary period while combatting preexisting injuries, and my squat #'s are accordingly at a beginner level.

My plan was to start with a single session and see if I can get any useful advice. Maybe a single pointer or cue that stands out and addresses my issues. I'm falling short trying to handle this one on my own

I will give you a repeated free one. Stop biasing toward your right leg in the hole.

Yeah no ****.

I think that problem resulted from me trying to correct the barbell coming up crooked too. Or I've just always done it

Maybe "stop having strength asymmetries" would fix the issue

Seems like something you could freely check at home with lunges/hamstring curls/etc and some video analysis of older squats.

I think your basic problems are so obvious and glaring they would clearly obscure anything nuanced enough to need an elite squat coach's tips.

I also think that in your specific circumstance that your prior lifts have any effect on what your current coach should be an expert at (weak people training with injuries). Clearly it represents a higher level of baseline ability than many people. But there are so many roadblocks you need to deal with (ranging from recovering from injury to being able to recover lost strength) that you lack of clear plan to get back to 90% where most people would need 6-12 months after an extended layoff.


1) lol at WLing coaches being great squat coaches
2) lol at training great athletes equaling being a great coach (halo effect, cause and effect, blah blah blah)

Getting in and training with a qualified coach is a great idea.

Thremp,

Don't go all sensei singh on me...Im not trolling. Why you so mad? Another day in fail town trying to squat 110?

My mistake. You were trolling the form thread previously.

In lieu of actually addressing any of my reasonable issues (the fact that the validation process for WLing does not align with actually being a good coach for beginners or at teaching the squat or the other silly things you say), you seem to take a dig at my strength level, which is dumb for a variety of reasons.

I personally would not call any of them "friends" anymore than exchanging PMs with G4S makes us "friends". I just enjoy the context of actually accomplished athletes asking me politely to work in and expressing some of their frustrations/struggles/successes/etc in a generic setting, while you substitute my name in a modified "Thumbelina" rhyme to make up for a lack of mental ability.

Honestly you'd have to be really ****ing stupid to think that any coach at the elite WLing level (we'll use high end national since lol at anyone in the US being elite) ever takes on someone at Jeff's strength level and injury history. Why doesn't he get a recommendation from his PT on a trainer who helps people recovering from injury with form? It seems like there must be some network where he lives for athletes recovering from major injury to learn basic barbell movements within the context of their prior injury rather than thinking someone must understand the nuances of this due to having trained someone who went to the Pan Am games.

Lets face the pertinent issue. You resort to personal attacks routinely or just cower ("take it to PMs" or elsewhere) because you simply aren't comfortable being proven wrong in public. Whether its because I'm significantly weaker than you and your own perceived feelings of inadequacy or some sort of bizarre mental issue, I don't know. Regardless, all the best in the future.

LOL at asking a PT anything about anything but especially about weight lifting.

Never said "go to PMs" said take it to your log or mine...to not tard up either of these threads.

You going all nuclear all the time man...you ok? I'm pulling for you bro. I know that 110 is right there for you...

I actually think there are many countries that would be better to take up weightlifting than Russia/China because over there the sport is almost exclusively (except CrossFit maybe nowadays) used in a system to get people to the Olympics and not accessible for recreational purposes at all. Not to mention language barriers. I think Germany or the US are actually the nuts given availability of the sport for noobs and many wl clubs throughout the country.

Mihkel it seems you didn't quite understand my post about bar whip because you're saying the opposite. And the coach merely used bar whip as a clarification of why some lifters lift like X and others like Y. Just an FYI. Not looking to start a fight over who's right or wrong.

Your view on what a physical therapist (dunno what you think a PT would mean in the context of a trainee in rehab) would advise seems amiss. The problem is not that all PTs are morons, but that some are better attuned to the needs of athletes. I'm sure there is someone who could give him a better opinion than literally "google/sort by success of athletes" neither of which are pertinent for Jeff.

Aside from your poor memory, you frequently want to sidebar conversations that would be embarrassing for you. Discussions of this sort are frequently how people learn about the subject. When I corrected Holliday on his previously poor advice I didn't balk at having to provide an actual reference since that helps people actually learn. You instead choose to personally attack people and never bother to actually defend your views in any sort of reasonable manner. Your attempts to dismiss my posts as "nuclear" is also silly. Nothing I have said attacks anything other than your ability to reason which is sorely lacking. When you face a gap in knowledge and then make something asinine up, you engage in the same repeated behavior.

Emphasis is mine for both complete insanity and also forgetfulness. You'd be better served by clarifying your thinking and understanding when you're wrong about something. In lieu of personal attacks admitting something like "Dropping a barbell from a front rack probably isn't going to cause someone spinal injury who has limited t-spine mobility" or "sorting by success of athletes for someone who is injured and in an entirely different subset probably is a poor heuristic for having him receive actual help".

I think beginners may not understand the topics being discussed in great detail, but this would be far more beneficial than listening to a vapid personal attack that seems to assert a superior strength level seems to add some sort of validity to one's point. Holliday is significantly stronger than I am as well, but still just as wrong as anyone else who posted the same prior viewpoint.

I guess this is a more general problem of establishing novice/experts in fields where someone is a novice. Simply asserting something contentious to a novice doesn't behoove them in any way, nor does burying the conversation in a sidebar. Perhaps they can learn something from the discussion and better be able to ascertain the quality of advice. However, many people (you and cha59 have many similarities tbh) would prefer a veil of secrecy to hide any perceived pretender status. This is silly as you are willfully misleading people via your own ignorance via personal insecurity.

Guess that was quite a wall of text. But I think everyone would be behooved if you attempted to articulate the ideas behind some of the advice you give in these threads to n00blords instead of resorting to personal attacks.

Wow man...so what you're saying is that you like me? Like you really like me?

Maybe with a little personal betterment you could do a lot to Make HF Great Again.

Mihkel; you were serious about that? I figured you were joking or trolling after you linked to that article that pretty much made my point. I thought that was good trolling, btw, now I just feel confused.

Read the last sentence of the article. Try reading some AARR.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/com...ginners_guide/

http://www.strengtheory.com/being-st...ding-you-back/

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/mus...ass-gain.html/

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/mus...ng-part-1.html

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/mus...ng-part-2.html

Looks like May 2010, August 2011 of AARR cover this.

My other option was returning to my old PT and using a trainer at his facility. Unfortunately they do not have the flexibility I would like as far as personal training services. Perhaps if I specifically ask they would be willing to coach me in just a couple of lifts at once, but this isn't how they tend to operate, hence me searching for a WL coach

I've been injured for 5+ years at this point and have gone the physical therapy training route enough times to exhaust it. I *should* be able to squat and add weight.

How many trainers have you seen?

3. The 3rd I saw 3 times for different injuries. He's highly competent but it was all targeted PT for specific issues/injuries, so I never once added weight to squats in the gym. I am at 90%+ currently and most of the issues I originally received PT for are mild to non existent

Why don't you call him and tell him your issue and ask who can handle that issue? Surely you must not be the only recreational athlete in MA recovering from injury.

I read that as, "Herp, derp, I think you should do it anyway." But I'm really caught up in the paragraph before that:

He also describes the bulking part of his "diet-then-bulk" strategy as a series of bulk-cuts involving close monitoring of exploding fat levels and adjusting back to cut to counteract the body's natural inclination to try to add back fat. And, again, the issue is my not thinking that is "easy". Mind you, I've done it (as a dedicated rock climber where strength-to-weight ratio is critical) and you couldn't pay me to do it again.

I'll try to get to that other stuff eventually.

Yes. It is between 10-15% bodyfat. Virtually everyone recommends this. It is like suggesting a cyclical caloric intake to a random person by drinking an extra protein shake and eating a serving of carbs on workout days.

You are failing to understand that 10% is a "reasonably lean" measure in the context of discussing people who are literally starving and other stage lean athletes being predisposed to gaining bodyfat. You basically read the article, slather on your own predisposed reasoning without understanding what "lean" would mean in the context of what Lyle describes, proceed to ignore literally everything else he has written or do any actual research on your own then herp derp the same exact thing you did before.