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08-28-2009 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by milesdyson
his right elbow is messed up and he can't get it straight up and down fwiw (he can't touch his right shoulder with his right hand).
Let me guess: He was a baseball pitcher?
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08-28-2009 , 03:49 AM
no, it's way more awesome. his girlfriend in like 8th grade or freshman year was taking a judo class and he didn't believe she could do some throw on him. he lets her do the throw and either lands on his right arm or she twisted his right arm really bad and it's never been the same. he did play baseball up until freshman year of high school, though, so maybe that made it even worse. it's laughable how far his hand is from his shoulder when he tries to touch it.
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08-28-2009 , 04:29 AM
That typically happens when his ulna bone lengthens and he loses flexion in the elbow. To have it happen due to trauma means he really got ****ed up.
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08-31-2009 , 01:59 PM
So I skipped Thursday b/c my legs were still gassed from Tuesday, which brings up some questions.

Is it better to postpone the work out, or is better to just do it at lighter weights? Or should I just go and try my normal progression and stop being a pussy, even if I'm still feeling worn out?

Also, I've been sleeping a ton lately. Averaging probably 60 hours/wk. Should I be worried about this, or is it normal when you're doing heavy squats?

On Tuesday I'll be trying for 255 squat, 195 bench and 270 deads
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08-31-2009 , 03:21 PM
Isnt that just a little over 8 hours a night? Isn't that pretty normal?
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08-31-2009 , 03:26 PM
Also vote for don't be a pussy, i play basketball almost every sunday and then come squat these heavy ass weights (235 today) the next morning. The tiredness goes away once you get into the warmups imo
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08-31-2009 , 03:42 PM
Basketball followed by heavy lifting is alright. Reversing the two tends to lead to serious soreness or at least worse athletic ability. This is especially true in a ballistic sport like tennis or baseball (assuming you're a pitcher).
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08-31-2009 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by iamawesomer
Also vote for don't be a pussy, i play basketball almost every sunday and then come squat these heavy ass weights (235 today) the next morning. The tiredness goes away once you get into the warmups imo
not being a pussy is almost always the answer, I've found Unfortunately I think w/squats and deads eventually it gets to the point where you can really only go heavy once a week. I doubt I'm at that point though

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Originally Posted by kyleb
Basketball followed by heavy lifting is alright. Reversing the two tends to lead to serious soreness or at least worse athletic ability. This is especially true in a ballistic sport like tennis or baseball (assuming you're a pitcher).
So since my elbow is ruined I've decided to teach myself to throw a knuckleball this winter. Good idea? I should schedule an mri but I know I won't.
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08-31-2009 , 04:13 PM
Always remember the first corollary to "Don't be a pussy": Don't be an idiot.

Where does your elbow hurt again? If you follow my training program and mechanical adjustments (which admittedly I have been lax in developing), you will be able to pitch pain-free by spring.
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08-31-2009 , 05:02 PM
From the curveball thread:

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Ligaments do not have pain receptors, so you won't feel "pain" from the UCL tearing - or even a complete rupture. You will feel pain/discomfort from the muscles that then take over stabilization of the elbow, as they were not designed to perform this task.


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Anyway, it's kinda hard to describe location since I know zero terminology, but it's basically an area that encompasses the entirety of my inner elbow. So if I bend my right arm at the elbow w/my hand facing toward me, the area would start from the left at that poking out bone thing that is immediately to the left and behind the actual point of my elbow, and move to the right all the way across the joint to the top of the poking out bone thing on that side. It radiates out about an inch and a half in either direction from the crook of my arm. The 'back side' of my elbow never hurts though.

Pain in the inner part (medial) of the elbow that has existed since you were 11-12 years old is most likely a symptom of medial epicondyle fragmentation. This is an overuse injury that cannot be prevented through mechanical changes. Surgery and rehab is the only option to permanently relieve the pain - fortunately, surgery is relatively straightforward.

Try touching your pitching arm to your pitching shoulder while standing up. That is to say, place your pitching hand palm on your pitching shoulder. See if you can do this. Then do it with your glove arm. You may notice a decreased range of motion in your pitching arm. This is normal and consistent with overuse in youth pitchers or supinated release in adult pitchers.


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Joint pain + muscle pain + dead arm feeling.

"Dead arm" feeling is probably not UCL rupture; you would very likely know if you had this problem (it would be unbearable to throw a baseball for any length of time). Major UCL damage is often indicated by severe forearm pain.

I strongly suggest getting an MRI and a diagnosis if it's not too expensive. There's a strong possibility that you need surgery.
I think I'd like to put off possible surgery for another year, and try to rehab it over the winter if possible
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08-31-2009 , 05:04 PM
It's not rehab you need. It's a different way to apply force to the baseball.
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08-31-2009 , 05:11 PM
it's all gravy baby

Anyway, I'm looking forward to your training program if you decide to post it
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08-31-2009 , 05:18 PM
I should be more specific. Looking at rehabbing your elbow due to pain is much like rehabbing your squat due to knee pain. In both cases, you are doing something wrong, and rehab doesn't "fix" the problem - it only treats the symptoms.
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08-31-2009 , 05:27 PM
So I need to learn how to throw a baseball properly, is what you're saying. Unlearning 20 years of muscle memory could be pretty tough lol. Looking forward to the challenge though. I'm ****ing tired of playing second base lol. I'm 6'4" ffs, people point and laugh
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09-08-2009 , 10:27 PM
Why do I skip entire weeks? Every time I go I enjoy it

Reset the squats a bit, but probably didn't need to
Squat
3x5x235

Bench
1x5x180 felt light so
2x5x190

Deads
1x5x260
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09-12-2009 , 05:51 PM
squat:
3x5x240
on the last rep of the third set I missed my depth, and by the time I had realized it I was half way up. Instead of just finishing up I went back down and got it and then almost died. Crazy head rush. It was a dumb thing to do but was actually kinda awesome.

press:
3x5x125 pretty damn easy can't wait to try for 135

PC
3x3x120 went easy on these b/c I wanted to do some pullups

Pullups
1x1 1x2 1x1 1x1
not from dead hang, I would guess that I'm jumping a bit. I'll tape these next time. I definitely want to add them to get them hudge gunz brah
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09-15-2009 , 10:40 PM
Squat:
3x5x245
reps were painful b/c of this:
Spoiler:

ewww.

Bench:
3x5x195
View My Video

Deads:
5x1x260
View My Video

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. I didn't like my negatives on reps 3,4 and 5, my head position, or my upper back. I did, however, love the socks. My **** was getting pretty torn up
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09-16-2009 , 03:35 AM
lol dude, wtf are you doing when you set up to pull? nothing resembling rip's advice i quoted in post 12.
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09-16-2009 , 09:04 AM
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lol dude, wtf are you doing when you set up to pull? nothing resembling rip's advice i quoted in post 12.
nahh I stopped doing the rip-approved set up. It didn't help, but it didn't really make things worse either I don't think. I dunno. Maybe I should use some iron plates even though they are such a pain, the rolling around is out of control. Rip says do not move the bar, but I can't help it. So I just try to jam it back into my shins before I pull
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09-16-2009 , 10:09 AM
DLs are horrible. Rounded back, hips way too low, you're doing 5 singles not 1 set. Squeeze your chest up?
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09-16-2009 , 10:15 AM
i've said this before (citing Rip of course): walk up to the bar and reach down and grab the bar before bending your knees. whether that is crucial/nitty or not, the point is that you're not even doing the very first (and incredibly easy) step correctly, which shows a a certain non-chalantness and lack of focus, which might be contributing to the rest of the DL not looking so great.

when i see vids of others DL (pro or not), they seem to take their time and are stable (nothing is moving around) in the setup, whereas in yours everything seems to be moving around (including the bar) and unstable.

this is what i was talking about: you're bending knees before you grab the bar

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9740/74797898.jpg
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09-16-2009 , 12:39 PM
I give up.
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09-16-2009 , 01:14 PM
Take heart. After reading comments from other people lifts and my own paranoia, I'm certain that I could post videos and be duly flamed for my form. Not that it wouldn't be warranted.
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09-16-2009 , 01:15 PM
Good lord what is going on in those DLs? It's like a squat-lift-pull with a rounded back.

Last edited by anononon; 09-16-2009 at 01:15 PM. Reason: and i'm not a form nit like many others!
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09-16-2009 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SmileyEH
I give up.
+1

I'm really trying guys. I don't know what else to do, other than hire a lift coach. Is anyone aware of some sort of reputable directory of those types?

In other news, my squats will catch my dead lifts by next Tuesday

I know I'm a bit oddly proportioned with a super long torso and comparatively short arms and legs. That said, I doubt I'm so many sd's from the mean that I can't physically dead lift correctly. Blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhe

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