Got my period Sunday morning lol...no more babies for me I guess.

No one has mentioned that I might like going to the gym. I actually enjoy lifting weights now. And, a guy at the gym was actually checking me out last night and a girl got jelly when I lifted more than her lol.
We were both doing/working in on the lat pulldowns and when I sat down in pulled her wait and had to up the weight and she was watching and rolled her eyes at me haha. I think that's the first time I've noticed a guy checking me out at the gym....besides old black guys, but that's just expected.

Competing in an Olympic sport at an international event but not the Olympics.

Thanks! That makes me an international athlete as well.

d The time and money wasted going to the gym to do face pulls and dumbbell rows when you can easily do these same exercises in your home for free is absolutely relevant. There is no benefit to it.

Why do you get so emotional in response to the reasoning I have calmly laid out? What is this Oprah stuff? Integrated properly, spinning is a way to burn 2500-4000 calories per week while viewing Netflix, which is something people do whether you like it or not. Why shouldn't somebody enjoy their cardio exercise? Spinning while watching TV/movies is one of the most tolerable ways to get the hours in, and it makes watching those movies guilt-free. And it doesn't preclude walking in the neighbourhood as well. Spinning is chosen because it is cheap to get into and will almost certainly achieve higher compliance than other activities, but it's fine if she snowshoes or whatever instead. Getting on a cardio plan will get her to her goal directly. Face pulls won't.

Nobody said she should only spin. Why would you even attempt this bizarre strawman? Of course her diet is important.

She has spent over a year not attaining her goal. Her current approach doesn't work for her, and frankly it's obvious why. It's embarrassing that people here allow her to spend hours on face pulls and then criticize her for not achieving her weightloss goals. Of course she won't because that stuff is just not an effective use of time for her.

I laid out an approach that is more effective and thus has a higher chance of bringing her to success. I've seen countless individuals achieve incredible changes by adding regular cardio exercise, women in the same physical situation as MLYLT lose 40 pounds in a summer. Combined with sensible diet choices steady-state cardio is the most effective way to create a very large caloric deficit, which is what she needs to make substantial headway on her goals.

1) Sensible diet
2) Steady-state cardio that the individual enjoys--I suggested spinning because it's convenient, costs very little, and most importantly can be made very tolerable



3) Resistance exercises that can be done at home. Powerblocks plus a box and a resistance band would achieve 98% of the benefit of going to the gym for MLYLT.

I see you picked on the resale value point I made. High-quality equipment bought well and kept in great condition fetches 70-90% on resale in the markets I live. Maybe it's different where you live. If you were discussing in good faith you would realize that changing that number doesn't affect the reasoning whatsoever. Home equipment will achieve her goals much more efficiently for less money even if she never resells, but of course she can resell. There's no reason to and hopefully she never would sell but instead use the equipment to her benefit forever. Knowing that it can be resold helps people make the purchase in the first place, knowing that they aren't committing 100% of the purchase price.

commas,

There are major factual errors in your post. (lol @ that resale value or why you brought it up)

She doesn't succeed with her plan because she doesn't follow it. I think LISS is great. I just think you're kinda making up a bunch of nonsense here.

Lifting heavy things also create preferential nutrient partitioning and EPOC.

Nice, which country did you represent?

"She doesn't succeed with her plan because she doesn't follow it" is an argument to change the plan to one she will follow. Trying the same thing and expecting different results being the definition of insanity and all that.

What nonsense am I making up? She needs to change her caloric balance, and she's only being given the option to eat less. At a certain point that just sucks. I can't believe I have to spell this out. Cardio that someone can tolerate can create deficits of 2000-4000 calories per week.

You are exaggerating the benefits she will get from lifting and you should know it. Everybody wants to live in a contrarian fantasy land. "Lifting heavy things" (so not face pulls, dumbbell rows or lat pulldowns) is apparently the secret to weightloss, not burning thousands of calories. Give me a break.

Commas,
I am doing the face pulls because my shoulder has been burning for a year and it helps alleviate the pain.
The DB Rows and lat pulldowns have also helped strengthen my back and reduce aches.

These lifts are not serving the purpose of loosing weight and that's not my plan. My actual plan is to walk 3 miles a day and try to do the couch to 5k and get to the gym to swim. I really enjoy swimming, but it's the toughest to make time for and schedule due to pool hours and stuff. I like the idea of having a bike at home as a back up to get cardio in when I don't have time to walk/run or get to the gym.
I've been doing the inclined push-ups on my stairs and step ups on the stairs at nights as well as different yoga stretching.

I not only want to loose weight, but want to be strong r and more flexible....and have a big round booty.

I also enjoy lifting weights and getting stronger, so I'm going to keep doing it because I like it. I like going to gym and listening to music and thinking/spacing out where there isn't a TV blaring or my kid running around and I don't have to see the dishes or the laundry that needs to be done.

These are fair reasons to do resistance training, and if you're finding a benefit then keep it up. The main points I'm trying to make are a) enjoyable cardio is tremendous for improving your caloric deficit in conjunction with diet improvements, b) part of making exercise enjoyable is having it be convenient.

Variety is important too. If you have 2-3 ways of getting cardio in, and 1-2 ways to get your desired resistance training in, you're more likely to comply each week. Having a couple options for each at home means that when life inevitably throws you a wrench you can still get your cardio and resistance training in. I've mentioned powerblocks but it's about $270 for the basic set, which would allow you to do weighted step-ups, weighted lunges, dumbbell rows, dumbbell deadlift, overhead press, etc., all from home. It's really all about compliance, finding a way to make it as painless as possible to get your desired physical activity in.

Again, dude, she's not going to be burning 4000 calories a week watching netflix spinning for an hour a day 5 days a week. It would help if you didn't make BS claims to make your points. What exercise equipment sells for 90% used? None.

As for only spinning, I meant for exercise. You're telling her to bag the gym because it's worthless for a 35-y.o. female and to sit on a stationary bike like a grandma instead. What's more boring than that? She's got two legs, beautiful weather and roads outside, and you're talking about the cost effectiveness of buying a spin bike to put in the kitty litter room, huffing in black mold wafting from within the closet, instead of exercising in the fresh outdoor air.

Again, the gym "hassle" is dependent on the person. Some people like getting up and going to the gym and making it part of their day. I don't get it; I like doing it at home and it was worth the coin I spent on the gear for that convenience, but that doesn't make my situation right for everyone.

I agree that isolation movements are not optimal for her, but that doesn't mean lifting is a waste as a whole. I'm surprised an international athlete who has lifted for 15 years doesn't see how muscle mass aids in burning more calories. She can and should do both - cardio and resistance training, and she likes lifting. Not seeing the problem here.

I'm not sure what you're arguing. Yes, some people like some things and don't like other things. MLYLT can decide for herself what she subjectively likes. My points are that more options for cardio are better because it improves compliance, and that spinning is a great option she may really like. Why are you arguing against the enjoyability of spinning when it's a subjective issue? Running or walking on pavement around residential subdivisions is boring as hell to me and most other people, but to each their own. You act like the subjective experience of one is objectively superior to the other which just doesn't follow. Even if you prefer walking outside it's still beneficial to have an alternative option indoors. What if it's raining? What if it's 90+ degrees out? What if you're sick and tired of the sun beating down on you as you tramp around a housing tract? It's physically safer and mentally more enjoyable to spin in a climate-controlled environment in those situations. But again, why not have the option to do either? One doesn't preclude the other.

What is your insistence on strawmen? Kitty litter? Black mold? Come on. This is no way to converse.

Muscle is great. I wouldn't have had any athletic success without lifting. But if the choice is lifting versus cardio, cardio is vastly superior for weightloss. Weightlifting isn't some cure-all, and building muscle mass is hard, moreso once you're past 23 and even moreso if you're female. And to my other point about convenience, many resistance exercises can be done at home with a bit of preparation, if and when inevitably it's not possible or convenient to get to the gym.

If you want to continue on this resale tangent that isn't central to the points being made, Concept II rowing machines and Powerblocks both sell for 90% in lightly-used condition, and never less than 70% in my location. Bumper plates are similar.

Dude, when I said she can just walk, you said that's not a good exercise for compliancy and she should spin. Now you're saying I'm the one who is not being objective, rofl.

Links to craiglist ads selling weights for 90% in your market?

What the **** is a powerblock?

Adjustable dumbbells.

Dude, why are you so combative dude? Where did I say it's not a good exercise for compliance? Please stop with the strawmen. Walking's fine and spinning doesn't preclude it. Why not do both and burn even more cals. You seem to think she should have one option for cardio because you have an irrational aversion to indoor cycling. Did an exercise bike kill your dad?

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-exercise-equ...ationFlag=true

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-exercise-equ...ationFlag=true

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-exercise-equ...ationFlag=true

https://www.amazon.ca/Concept2-Model...words=Concept2

Each of these is priced 80% of new, and they each come with an inferior monitor that is two generations old which means they are at least three and possibly up to 14 years old. There aren't any PM5s available but when there are they go for 90%. Okay, dude?

commas,

You should learn about the subject before pontificating. The "you should know better" reeks of superiority while being just std Dunning-Kruger. There are a host of benefits to engaging the anaerobic system via lifting heavy things and I mentioned two of the most common.

This is apart from the fantasy world where MLY burns 800 cals an hour on a bike.

Cool. So Concept2 rowers have high resale value.

Totally relevant to an exercise bike + power block combo.

If someone 70 pounds overweight is forced to make a mutually-exclusive choice between cardio and weightlifting, she should choose cardio every time.

Think rationally. She is struggling to achieve weightloss, that's the priority for her health and self-image so that's where the focus should be. That comes from improving caloric balance.

I never said resistance training doesn't have benefits--another strawman. What I said is that it's not the lowest hanging fruit for her compared with cardio. I was under the impression she has finite time (who doesn't?) and was choosing one over the other. If the choice is one or the other, it has to be cardio for someone with her objectives.

If she wishes to do both, then the best way to support that is by providing access to equipment at home in addition to the gym or instead of the gym, because it saves time and reduces friction. She can choose to keep the gym membership if that's what she wants. The home equipment still has value in that case because it offers another option when the gym is hard to get to.

I never asserted she would burn 800 calories per hour--another sad strawman. I said I would guess she'd burn 400-500 calories but I was surprised to see that a calculator predicted she may burn 780 calories at a "moderate" intensity, thus she could potentially burn 3900 calories per week if she cycles for five hours and that estimate turns out to be true. But even at the lower numbers she'll give a sizable boost to her caloric deficit.

Cardio also improves nutrient partitioning and increases EPOC from baseline. It also builds muscle mass and provides an anaerobic stimulus, albeit not as strong of one as heavy compound weightlifting. The reality is these factors just aren't as relevant when you're 70 pounds overweight and need to create a deficit of 256,000 calories to lose them. These are small factors compared to the in-workout benefit of calorie burning. So many people get focused on some small tertiary benefit and ignore the primary results derived directly from the activity.

Are you sure you want to go down this road?

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-exercise-equ...ationFlag=true

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/po...-0840992p.html

$160 used vs $180 new.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-exercise-equ...ationFlag=true

http://www.fitnessdepot.ca/B11BCB090...1#.WibYYTdrzsB

$925 with the 50-70/70-90 upgrades and stand, kettle handle about $100 more, total ~$1025 new vs. $900 used. Want to keep going?

commas,

You said 780. Sorry I rounded to 800!

It is pretty clear you're a massive troll at this point, who is not a very clear thinker. The effect sizes are meaningfully different. If I posted that doing heavy squat singles would improve aerobic capacity, that would be true, but totally inane and bordering on dishonesty to position it as an alternative to LISS.

Furthermore, she is already engaging in multiple forms of LISS between hiking, canoeing, swimming, and walking. Your "solution" (which can hardly be called one) is for her to add on another LISS activity in lieu of things she's already selected. In addition the Power Block suggestion is absurd. There is no meaningful way to load anything with those.

Beyond that, Planet Fitness is ~$250 a year. Assuming $1250 for a C2 and $1000 for the powerblocks, she'd be looking at an initial outlay equivalent to 9 years of gym membership. Not including the depreciation of the items/storage/etc.

Your entire post (and the ones before it) are total trollish trash. Your advocating something that she doesn't seem willing to do. (Has she even biked before indoors?) Also, big ****ing lol @ "safer". Christ.

Luckily, MLY ignores most of the advice ITT, so I can sleep safely at night knowing this insanity will be forgotten. But wao.

She doesn't living in ****ing Ontario. Feel free to pull up actual relevant pricing in your vague attempt to pretend help tho.

Like, right here, bro:

The reality is ur talking our ur azz.

Actually, I believe she is doing quite well. Is she meeting her unrealistic goals (Bikini body by summer!), no. But she has lost a ton of weight and her compliance is getting better. She has come a long way.

Also, you appear to be a dope.