Is that from a wrestaurant?

~400-450?

Much better!

A bit hard to tell from the pic, that vinaigrette looks pretty thick so perhaps it's got a lot of raspberries in it. But vinaigrettes typically have 3 parts olive oil to 1 part vinegar/acid, so they can pretty calorie heavy. A lot of variation though, this blueberry version I use quite a bit is 1 part to 1 part (though there's a bit of honey in there as well): http://allrecipes.com/recipe/242194/...amic-dressing/

The salad is cool. Totally inspiring for me to concoct something similar for today's dinner. And amount of dressing here is so not M's problem.

I have olive oil and vinegar dressing often, that I weigh and measure. I'd be shocked if that wasn't 400kcal+ in just dressing.

Actually, that's exactly one of her problems and the problem of a lot of overweight people. Cheese, dip, butter, dressing, jelly, etc... is just extra kcals that don't need to be there. Anyone who's logged food should know this quite well.

There aren't any free kcals, so while a 750kcal salad is better than a 1500kcal burger, let's not start the parade just yet.

+1

Plus an additional problem (and her intentionally ignoring my question twice demonstrates she is aware it is actually a problem, but she was too embarrassed to answer/acknowledge a la recent McD's breakfast trips) is her unwillingness to make her health a priority by playing fewer hours of poker in order to go food shopping and prepare her meals for the week ahead of time so she can avoid these sorts of situations to begin with.

Perhaps she'll be more inclined to do so once she moves into her new duplex, though? Congrats on that, btw; I'd guess this sort of environment should be much better maintained and be more healthy for both MLY and MLY Jr.

It'll be the added sugar in that particular dressing that'll add a ton of calories.

M5 really gaming this bet to the max. Just no holds barred, no dirty trick too low.

It's true that all the stuff that makes food taste good doesn't NEED to be there, but at the same time It also isn't necessary for meals to be some kind of Dickensian nightmare of plain boneless skinless chicken and undressed salad.







(May not be srs)

You think that's 400 cals in dressing?

Finding a middle ground between your nightmare scenario and a quarter cup of dressing per salad is kind of important, as is recalibrating her taste buds so she's capable of finding food tasty without drowning it in half a cup of molten queso.

Starting at a point more towards nightmare and moving forward slightly until a more reasonable point is reached seems more likely to succeed given her self control issues.

I do.

I think it's quite possible that there is over 100kcal per ~30g of that dressing and that there's 120g or more in those 2 cups.

Of course, this is why we measure things, to be sure.

That so called dressing looks like two cups of melted sorbet.

That's crazy. Equivalent to your comment 99% NFL players on peds.

Mihkel just said it's 400-450 cals for the whole plate.

Why don't you guys argue about it? Oh I forget, bromance keeps it nice.

Look bro, most vinagrettes in the USA are somewhere between 25-50 cals a tablespoon. I am sure you can find some monstrosities mainly in serving size, somewhere. But this is not the case.

If you want to do an experiment, we can all log our vinagreitte dressings for a few months. You will see that your number is absolutely ridiculous.

Ummm, you do realize that if we take your top number you just said the same thing I did, lol.


I measure my 30g of dressing often, and my olive oil and vinegar (yes, not exactly the same I realize) is 100kcal per.

I think we just need to know where it's from and how much there is.

Nothing to argue about it until then, and I guess we'll see when the log is posted.

MLYLT,

So that's a no?

Uhh that's not a normal vinagrette and almost certainly has added sugar

http://healthyrestauranteating.com/l...sing%E2%80%8B/
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/e...w-many-tbsp-is

It appears to be a quarter of a cup of dressing. I was way way way off in my estimate of how much dressing that is.

Also, you're out of your ****ing mind if you think a restaurant is serving a raspberry vinaigrette that looks like that at 25cals tablespoon.

Wait g4s, you think those are real cups? I am confused.

I get the vinagreitte dressings at fast food restaurants in America all the time. The packet is 50. For the nasty dressings, it's 300 to 350.

Sit down restaurants are different animals. But let's not exaggerate.

How much would I bet that, that's less than 250 cals? Well maybe not my life, but if the return was solid it would be quite a wager.

For even money, i would wager $100,000 that that's less than 220 cals. Purely hypothetical as it cannot be trusted to iron out terms going off a picture.

http://www.nutrition-charts.com/chil...e-information/
http://www.applebees.com/nutritional-info
https://www.tgifridays.com/pdf/nutrition.pdf (Note that this a 1.25oz serving, which may be standard)

Appears a range of 32.5-62.5 if they are basing on 2oz cups. This is obviously absurdly low if they are basing this on the TGIF serving of 1.25oz. Which would make their own dressing 76kcal per tbsp and make the other ones more dense as well. I assume someone can continue to sleuth this.

You just lost bro.

Not cups in the measured sense, cups/dressing cups/ramekin/container/whatever you want to call it.

I'd book your imaginary $100k bet on the over of 220kcal. No chance imo.

The only sleuthing we need is the size of those little cups.

I change my mind on my bet. I zoomed in on the cups and saw they were pretty big. I am comparing to glass of water.

My new wager size is 200.