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05-23-2017 , 10:14 AM
I said I would switch and thanks for the suggestion. I just don't get all the flack I get for 50cals of jelly.
05-23-2017 , 10:19 AM
I think its because you are usually adding it to an already awful meal of 2 sausage biscuits. it's like your spitting in the face of all the advice you get here when you go out of your way to add sugar to a meal already full of salt, saturated fat and 1k+ calories.
05-23-2017 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
I'm not against not having sugar. I think switching to sugar free Jelly is a great idea, but I don't see having 50cals of jelly is a problem for long term success. I use Splenda for my coffee or drink it black and have been for years. Now I'm drinking diet sodas and haven't had any kind of a drink with sugar in it for the past year. The only sugar I get is from jelly, snow cones, and the occasional dessert. I don't think sugar addiction is my problem. I just really love jelly on sausage and snow cones....and lemon cake.
Sugar is great. Tastes delicious. I use it in lots of things, but people use it in things that are a bad idea. Is sugar free jelly on a biscuit gonna be that different? If you're using a tablespoon per biscuit that is 50 pretty much needless calories that could be used on something actually delicious.

Sometimes you eat a bunch of stuff that tastes okay or semi-bad (protein shakes) in order to eat things that taste good (giant amounts of ribeye, whole coffee cake, fancy tasting menu, 2 bottle wine, etc). You lose a lot of flexibility when you saddle yourself with 100 cals of essentially sugar early in the day that don't really make your food taste better than an alternative.
05-23-2017 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
I just don't get all the flack I get for 50cals of jelly.
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Originally Posted by Renton555
If you could reduce your daily calories by 50, that would result in about 5 pounds of additional fat loss annually.
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05-23-2017 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by beeschnuts
I think its because you are usually adding it to an already awful meal of 2 sausage biscuits. it's like your spitting in the face of all the advice you get here when you go out of your way to add sugar to a meal already full of salt, saturated fat and 1k+ calories.
She once said she also adds salt to almost anything so probably to the biscuits as well
05-23-2017 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
I'm not against not having sugar. I think switching to sugar free Jelly is a great idea, but I don't see having 50cals of jelly is a problem for long term success. I use Splenda for my coffee or drink it black and have been for years. Now I'm drinking diet sodas and haven't had any kind of a drink with sugar in it for the past year. The only sugar I get is from jelly, snow cones, and the occasional dessert. I don't think sugar addiction is my problem. I just really love jelly on sausage and snow cones....and lemon cake.
The problem isn't 50 calories of jelly. It's the two sausage biscuits you're putting it on AND the jelly. Two or three eggs is all you need for breakfast.

On a bigger-picture note, it's fine that you don't log bad days, that you're unwilling to make further changes now that you've plateaued, etc. You lost a lot of weight and that's good for your health. However, if you're going to continue logging selectively and/or making silly excuses for not eating right, it'd probably be better for you mentally if you were to state openly that you're done with actively trying to lose weight for the time being and you're going to try to simply maintain your new body for a couple months. That way you can relax a bit and when you decide you actually want to start losing weight again you can come back with renewed energy and devotion.

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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Oh My God my legs are so sore today, I can barley walk.
Would you say that your legs feel like jelly!?

More importantly, now that you can barley walk, you have a chance to make a lot of money: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34...good-idea-286/
05-23-2017 , 10:23 AM
It's just one of those things that could be removed without a lot of sacrifice on your part, while making it substantially easier to post under-calorie days. We all have our version of jelly on a sausage biscuit.

An example from my own diet is butter in my oatmeal. It's an extra 60 calories or so that makes a subtle difference to the flavor. When I'm dieting, I don't feel like the improvement in flavor is worth the calories, so I omit. Now that I'm no longer dieting, I put it back in there.
05-23-2017 , 10:34 AM
M you eat lots and lots of added sugar in all your processed foods, FYI
05-23-2017 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
I'm not against not having sugar. I think switching to sugar free Jelly is a great idea, but I don't see having 50cals of jelly is a problem for long term success. I use Splenda for my coffee or drink it black and have been for years. Now I'm drinking diet sodas and haven't had any kind of a drink with sugar in it for the past year. The only sugar I get is from jelly, snow cones, and the occasional dessert. I don't think sugar addiction is my problem. I just really love jelly on sausage and snow cones....and lemon cake.


I don't think any of us realized those were sugar free smoothies you were getting.
And sugar free Frappuccinos.


Carry on then
05-23-2017 , 10:41 AM
Also,
How's the smoking going?
Is that the secret doctor that you are going to?
Maybe a hypnotherapist.
05-23-2017 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
The problem isn't 50 calories of jelly. It's the two sausage biscuits you're putting it on AND the jelly. Two or three eggs is all you need for breakfast.

On a bigger-picture note, it's fine that you don't log bad days, that you're unwilling to make further changes now that you've plateaued, etc. You lost a lot of weight and that's good for your health. However, if you're going to continue logging selectively and/or making silly excuses for not eating right, it'd probably be better for you mentally if you were to state openly that you're done with actively trying to lose weight for the time being and you're going to try to simply maintain your new body for a couple months. That way you can relax a bit and when you decide you actually want to start losing weight again you can come back with renewed energy and devotion.



Would you say that your legs feel like jelly!?

More importantly, now that you can barley walk, you have a chance to make a lot of money: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34...good-idea-286/
Ok, I get it.

I have a renewed dedication! I've made great progress this month!

Lol at jelly legs....they were jelly yesterday after working out and they gave out while I was climbing the stairs at my daughters daycare.
05-23-2017 , 10:51 AM
Mly are you still putting salt packets in burgers?
05-23-2017 , 10:57 AM
Agree with the above post that it is adding extra unnecessary calories to an already poor meal choice. For example, I don't think anyone would say anything if you had a breakfast of two eggs, and a piece of toast with jelly.

Choices aren't binary, good or bad. There are shades, and part of the deal is making your bad choices a 7 instead of a 10. There have been tons of suggestions about how to make fast food breakfasts a 7 instead of a 10, but you don't incorporate or even respond to those.

As an example, the gas station biscuit day, you said you couldn't go home to get a healthy choice, so you had to go to the gas station, but never answered the question of where the jelly came from that you put on those biscuits.

It has been mentioned over and over that Egg McMuffins are 300 calories, that yogurt parfaits are available at most fast food places, etc.

So that is where it is frustrating to read sausage biscuits with jelly on top.
05-23-2017 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
I'm not ignoring post about jelly. Yeah, I'll switch to the Splenda jelly no problem.

I didn't post Thurs and Fri logs because the ppl in OOT were talking about it, so I just don't want to post them now. I'm feeling good and getting into a good groove, I don't want any negatively. I already know Friday was bad and I ate out all day.

You don't have to post daily logs every day. Sometimes

5/18 2950
5/19 3450

That is good enough. The breakdown is none of their business, as long as you don't do it too often. And you don't, so keep ignoring them. More ban hammer!!
05-23-2017 , 10:59 AM
Also, it appears you put 2 tbsp per biscuit for 100 cals per biscuit? What the literal ****?

I consume vaguely the same amount of calories as you do in just jelly for my preworkout meal.
05-23-2017 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Brown Keeper
Also,
How's the smoking going?
Is that the secret doctor that you are going to?
Maybe a hypnotherapist.
It's going. I've been going 4days vaping 3 days smoking each week for the past month. Ive smoked Tues, We'd,Thurs every week this month.I'm getting there and I'm trying to switch to straight vaping this week. I'm tapering down significantly. By the end of the month I will be soley vaping 3mg 10x/day.
I will do this, I've just got to get my mind right, and I'm working with my therapist on it. I just hate hate hate that code3 makes this an ultimatum instead of saying he wants to help me quit because he loves me and wants me to be happy. This ultimatum bull**** just adds another level to break through in quitting. I want to quit, but I want to do it for me and not because code3 is threatening not to love me. God I hate that he is doing this. I also want to say "**** you, you can't try to make me live in fear of you taking your love away".
I just want to reach this goal on my own and for myself and I want to come to my own peace and determination to quit; I hate so goddamn much that I'm being forced to do something. He just won't back off and let me do it for myself, it has to be me doing something for him.

No, I'm not seeing hypnotherapist.
05-23-2017 , 11:02 AM
You should just ignore Code's ultimatum
05-23-2017 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.mmmKay
You should just ignore Code's ultimatum
This. Do it so your daughter doesn't have to see you with lung cancer at 55.
05-23-2017 , 11:25 AM
Has your therapist suggested a "break" from Code?
05-23-2017 , 11:55 AM
Well he sounds hideous.
05-23-2017 , 11:59 AM
He suggested I take a break from the relationship to stop smoking so I don't have all those negative emotions of ultimatums and the fear of not being loved. He said if code3 can't remove the utilmatum and that is preventing me from doing it for myself, then I need to remove myself from the relationship+ultimatum to be able to do it.
I might have to just take a month or so for myself and to get my mind and motivations right to quit.

Code3 says I've tried to quit so many times and failed and I never will, but I've always had the ultimatum that he won't marry me or love me unless I quit over my head and that has really just done more harm. I just think how I could have done this months ago had I been able to try for myself instead of doing it out of fear of not being loved and had code3 cheering me along.
He has also given me a lot of advice on how to improve the relationship. Changing my communication patterns and trying to do different things to see if I get different results.

Last edited by MeLoveYouLongTime; 05-23-2017 at 12:04 PM.
05-23-2017 , 12:29 PM
I said a couple of months ago that I lost weight for code3 and that was my motivation, but going back through my thoughts when I started, that just isn't true. I did it for myself and I was spurred to do it because I got embarrassed at work after being called out about my shirt being too small....that is what woke me up. Code3 and I were in the lowest point in our relationship when I started losing weight, we were separating and I was moving 2 hrs away to start a new job, so it was for me. Yes, I wanted to be more attractive to him, but it really was/is for me and I think that's part of why I've been successful. He is really encouraging with my weight loss; I just wish he would show the same encouragement with smoking. I don't have a fear he won't love me if I'm fat, I don't feel like I have to lose weight for him at all, there's only positive emotions with changing and getting healthy. I want those same positive emotions with quiting smoking and getting healthy that way.
A friend called me last night and we talked a lot about our insecurities and fears and about not putting ourselves in positions to have those taken advantage of. It feels like he is taking advantage of my fear of not being loved and is using it against me to do something for him and that just hurts me and makes me want to resist.

Last edited by MeLoveYouLongTime; 05-23-2017 at 12:32 PM. Reason: Thanks
05-23-2017 , 12:37 PM
M,

Surprisingly self-aware. Even if you quit smoking, there will always be something that code uses in that way.
05-23-2017 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
Would you say that your legs feel like jelly!?

More importantly, now that you can barley walk, you have a chance to make a lot of money: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34...good-idea-286/
Dude, are you trying to get MLYLT killed? She can barley walk yet is expected to run the oats, man? Her legs will give out on her and she's bound to get tasered in the clitoris by one of the supervisors. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy!

Last edited by rakemeplz; 05-23-2017 at 12:47 PM. Reason: mlylt keep doing you, not all of us are cut out to be boiled oat runners
05-23-2017 , 12:47 PM
M,

thought of you when I saw this today. The vids of this dude aren't bad to have a little something if you have no time go to gym. It is fun + few cool dance moves.



And your therapist is doing seriously good work with you. I don't know if you yourself feel the change, but it is visible in your posting.

      
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