All I see is a bunch of WIL in this post.

I do 16 hour fasting about 5/7 days, the effect on my blood sugar is dramatic.

I'm a fatty and just went 36 hours with but a single grilled chicken sandwich.

Not too difficult to skip a meal.

Now I feel the pull of McDo! I love it.

It's going to be a challenging day (dr. phil maybe) to not have a blowout day today with the fasting of yesterday. I think MLYLT has a lot of WIM when it comes to willfully limiting calories (through not eating), despite eating calorie dense foods.

Lapka is a situationally hyperaware zen robot iyam.

Why does Thayer keep trolling about IF and low carb? Has he just not bothered to read the modern research on this or whats the deal?

He just got banned from the SE Politics thread where he has developed certain trolling needs. I think he should try to cut back on the trolling, possibly by limiting it to just a six hour window per day, with reduced levels of sarcasm that will help him shed the unwanted layers of smarm more quickly. He does not seem to want to listen, appearing to be pretty sure that everyone else just had a "spontaneously getting mad at Thay for no reason" problem.

Gonna be a great day! I haven't eaten yet and I'm up and full of energy to clean and pack.

Thremp,

Aren't you the one who called everyone ignorant idiots who didn't know what they were talking about for saying fattier meats are tastier?


Pretty much all fats are fat because of carbs

Thayer,

That may be an interesting non sequitur we can pick up later on, but other than to achieve compliance there are no real advantages to IF/LC.

As it is, I IF and don't LC. I don't advise anyone to IF as a starting point because many people are used to evenly placed meals and have a tendency to binge. The same can occur due to reduced mental function in low carbers in people who have to think for their jobs. (Perhaps not you.)

You seem to be militant in your advice without really understanding the topic in any passing matter.

FWIW fattier meats are not necessarily tastier. I just bailed on some salmon collars for being too fatty. But hey, lets just speak in broad absolutes.

Your brain needs glucose, not carbs, and your liver can create glucose for you. A lot of the studies you seem to refer to are just bad studies, generally analyzing short term effects and people seem to make incorrect conclusions from them. High fat diets have historically had remarkable effects on the brain.

Agreed that the by far main benefit of LC and IF is compliance.

Thayer's young and he's got his health. What would he want with a job?

Big,

Only one sandwich for 36h is nbd.

Thurs 6pm 6 double baconators
Fri Noon grilled chicken sandwich
Sat 6am 8 sausage egg and cheese biscuits with jelly

That about right?

Mikhel,

Not surprised you're the kind of unsophisticated palate that wouldn't appreciate collar!



Mmmmmmmm

El D,
What is that and where can I get s some?

I only ate four. Seven was just too many.

Thayer,

That is comical. Please cite.

M,

That's tuna collar.

Collar is one of the most delicious parts of fish, but not the easiest to find.

Your best bet is to look for "hamachi kama" at a sushi place. It's pretty common, grilled yellowtail collar.

Welp, learned something new today:

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama...rticle/1108558

http://pediatrics.aappublications.or...2/6/1358.short

Mik,

OK, get back to us in 8 years when you've caught up on your learning.

Thayer,

You may not be aware, but we're not discussing diet interventions for MLY's child.

BR,
Mihkel

So your study controls for amount of calories consumed, and concludes that the only effect is elevated mood. Agreed not much changes if you eat the same calories. It also says "Both diets had similar effects on working memory and speed of processing."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2898565/

I found that rather surprising. I don't study the obese in great detail since I'm not terribly interested in them, but it appears that they don't suffer from the same issues that healthy populations do.

But I guess you're okay with suggesting a dietary intervention that exacerbates mood depressing in someone with clinical depression from what I gather with little to no evidence that it is a superior methodology in any way to any other isocaloric diet?

Let me know when you can support that the totally nuts "High fat diets have historically had remarkable effects on the brain" statement.

Anyway, here is a study that expands on the prior research from children: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1176378/

It may not even be not eating carbs, but merely eating lots of PUFA. But lets just cherry pick random items that are totally irrelevant and support our worldview.