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05-14-2017 , 01:24 PM
Declared a war and gone
05-14-2017 , 01:37 PM
At the risk of another SensitiveSingh episode. You win. I'm a terrible person with no friends and women don't like me. I apologize for making a comment not directed at you which you found offensive, I will be more vigilant of potentially offending you with my internet posting that is not directed toward you. I would also like to apologize for any future transgressions which may be committed by me or anyone that could be associated with me.
05-14-2017 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorilla4Sale
It's incredibly simple to lose weight, just as it's incredibly simple to gain weight.
This is true. But simple is not always the same as easy.
05-14-2017 , 01:50 PM
Your sarcastic tone..... It might save your face, and I am OK with it. My goal is not to force you away from here, but to force you to be civilized, at least with me.

I know that I win. And that has nothing to do with this 28 y.o little boy.
I win because I am an old hag and every insult, every bad word you could direct at me, I heard many times. I win because I can read . I win because I am fully and completely me with my disturbed relationship with food, me being revengeful ***** and many many many other faults.
05-14-2017 , 01:53 PM
I wouldn't label anyone as just lazy. Or anything else. Including "just an *******." There are a multitude of factors, environmental, biological, or otherwise that contribute to someone finding something easy or difficult compared to ourselves. Willpower/WIM is a finite resource. If it's going to numerous other things, making something else a priority won't suddenly create more WIM, especially if those other things are (or feel as though they are) unavoidable components of survival.
05-14-2017 , 01:54 PM
Mikhel is playing the savage internet burn game on super easy. Most of us are playing it on very hard. Just the way it is.
05-14-2017 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Holliday
Oh great, now KC is yelling at me to open my mail. And let's be honest, isn't it really "OldManColin" now?
that may or may not be my instagram handle.

eta: and I'm also guilty of sucking at opening mail and not paying bills on time not cuz i'm poor but cuz i'm dumb and lazy with the mail.

Last edited by kidcolin; 05-14-2017 at 02:09 PM.
05-14-2017 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
This is true. But simple is not always the same as easy.
Indeed. I chose words carefully.
05-14-2017 , 02:27 PM
I suspect will power fits
05-14-2017 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gorilla4Sale
WIM is 'want it more'. Common terminology around here. How bad do you actually want to reach your goal?

The article/studies are interesting, but of course it does leave room still for people who may just be lazy, as noted in the text.

I disagree regarding "will-power is one of the weakest factors in food-intake regulation"; however, for obvious reasons. The food we put in our mouth is a choice.

Taking the research, as well as your self described difference between you an MLY, essentially being habit. We all know there are ways to help ingrain habits, and there are tons of resources for that very thing. Habits, priorities, etc... Hell, people have even attempted and offered to make her a meal plan, all she had to do was prep and eat it. No thought involved at all as to what goes in your mouth. I don't think she made it one day.

Why doesn't she attempt to establish a habit(s) similar to yours? Why doesn't she take advantage of the resources available to help with this? Why does she ignore the daily advice?

WIM, imo.
I think that this "hack your behavior" is totally interesting topic. I mean we can agree that there are a bunch of things that make things easier. One of that I found for me in M's thread is: "eliminate the choice". I have a little bit used it before, but to read and use it mindfully was a big deal for me.

Starting with 16:20 was interesting for me about building new habits:

New for me was, that you need not only to force yourself to do things for a certain period of time, but this "new" thing needs to cause positive emotions.

With M.... I think for her going out for food is somehow connected with positive things.... I don't know.... For me cooking is actually something meditative. It is not an annoying chore, but a luxury time, when I can completely focus on this manipulations with ingredients and I do get this " flow state". And for M cooking is annoying work. May be moving in with sister will resolve this.
05-14-2017 , 02:32 PM
It's made her fat. So I can think of at least one negative thing that going out for food has done. It's more expensive than shopping and preparing food, so that's two negatives.

I have to assume that to continue the same behavior the positives must outweigh the negatives? Right?

Maybe not... *shrug*

Last edited by Gorilla4Sale; 05-14-2017 at 02:45 PM. Reason: eta
05-14-2017 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fredd-bird
Do you have a more concrete example of this? On the surface I get it, people with their **** together typically have fewer small items weighing on their mind each day, meaning their levels of willpower are higher. I don't necessarily agree with the concept of they "just do it" though.
eh, I was kinda being glib. Kinda what I mean is those with good habits are, generally speaking, good at forming habits. So when you're someone with your **** together but who's a little unruly with the diet, it's not a huge leap to get into meal prep and calorie counting. And once you get in the groove of doing that it's just a habit and not something you think about.

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This I totally agree with though. These decisions deplete their willpower resources and some research by Roy Bauemeister (et. al.) linking blood glucose to willpower, which also explains some of these terrible food choices.

Great read on the general topic: https://www.myosynthesis.com/brain-states-willpower
I'll read this later. The deplete willpower thing is a little tenuous to me, but I get it to a degree. There's also some questionable science out there regarding willpower (the famous marshmellow study) so we should be a little leery with this stuff.

But part of what I'm saying is those "decisions" you convert to habits don't actually weigh on your willpower. They're just something you do.

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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
It is flame war.

How could you possibly draw the conclusion that I'm trying to hurt you? Out of all the fringe crazy stuff you said, that is probably the most bizarre.
It's a common theme among the habitually offended to turn "statement I disagree with" or even "distasteful joke" into "things aimed at harming me and I must defend myself." It's pure post-modern madness.
05-14-2017 , 03:57 PM
I like that usage of post-modern. I may steal that.
05-14-2017 , 05:16 PM
I am to please and steal from those smarter than me.
05-14-2017 , 05:20 PM
I'm not entirely without thought as that above post suggests. The 2p2 app crashed as I was writing something and it somehow posted?

What I was intending to say was: I think will power fits into the lesson of filling a jar with rocks, sand, water, pebbles and the professor asking each time if the jar is full.
05-14-2017 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by nuclear500
I suspect will power fits
I read this on my phone and thought you said "I suspect will power lifts" and my reaction was

05-14-2017 , 07:56 PM
Dr Squat's gains returned to zero
05-14-2017 , 07:58 PM
RIP Fred.
05-14-2017 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BustoRhymes
I read this on my phone and thought you said "I suspect will power lifts" and my reaction was
lol I read the same
05-14-2017 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lapka
You had been fat in the past and may be you have trained you a hot body, but it doesn't help, still no one likes you. And especially not women.
hahahahahahahaha


Just give him another 10 years further, he'll get there.
05-14-2017 , 10:50 PM
I miss all the e-fights... is lapka the new ss?!? IS lapka ss?!?!? The avatar would suggest yes!
05-14-2017 , 11:24 PM
Snitch,

Possibly the only bad thing about being Aussie. I've come on here in the morning when there has been an obvious **** storm but by that point some mod has deleted the whole thing!
05-14-2017 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rexx14
Snitch,

Possibly the only bad thing about being Aussie. I've come on here in the morning when there has been an obvious **** storm but by that point some mod has deleted the whole thing!
Yeah. I've been timezoned out of so many classics over the years...
05-15-2017 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 00Snitch
I miss all the e-fights... is lapka the new ss?!? IS lapka ss?!?!? The avatar would suggest yes!
lapka is a cray cray older woman from Austria or something iirc. So basically identical to SS.
05-15-2017 , 03:41 AM
Ahhh Austria! G'day mate. Let's put another shrimp on the barbie

      
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