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Kidcolin's log: back to basics (plus neck harness) Kidcolin's log: back to basics (plus neck harness)

07-01-2009 , 02:24 PM
yeah, I think it is.. I think you and Doug F are right on. I don't think I do it every rep or every set, but when the weight gets heavy I sometimes lose it forward due to not keeping my chest up (perhaps caused by a weak abdomen), and rather than pulling it back in line with stomach and upper back I'm cheating with my feet. I sometimes notice when I GM a rep, but I never really noticed the feet. Maybe that's why my knees are stiff.

Thanks guys I'll work on it. Probably need to consistently do some ab work. I was doing NS situps here and there, but I don't think this new gym has a slant board. Any suggestions?

also I should probably post some of these on Rip's board.

halstad,

I really don't care. They accent my ass cheeks. And really I only use the pants for DLs and PCs nowadays, it's just I forgot to pack my shorts yesterday. I see no reason to drop $$ when these function fine.
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07-01-2009 , 02:48 PM
I wish I was more like you. =(
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07-01-2009 , 09:45 PM
why? I'm at least 20lbs overweight w/ bad skin and have weak lifts.

Anyway, no workout today because my hamstrings and adductors feel like jello. Do I dare try a pre-work workout in the morning tomorrow? We'll see. I have to work late tonight. If I get to bed by midnight I might give it a go.

I did read this great article today: http://robertsontrainingsystems.com/...s+Don%27t+Lie/

I def have some anterior pelvic tilt. I think I'll start doing some pull throughs after my SS workouts, hopefully work up to the GHR. I also might do some GTG type work with glute bridges and things like that.
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07-02-2009 , 12:23 AM
Nice article definitely opened my eyes to my weaknesses.
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07-02-2009 , 06:41 AM
food today:

9 am: 4 eggs scrambled w/ cheddar cheese. 1/2 grapefruit
1 pm: chicken breast w/ some bbq sauce, steamed zucchini and cauliflower, fruit salad
4 pm: broccoli w/ olive oil and pepper, 1 can tuna + mustard
snacked on some almonds
~10 pm: 1/2 lb cheeseburger (no bun), spinach and cucumber salad w/ olive oil. It sucked that it took this long to have dinner, but I was stuck at work. I was proud of myself, though. I was really tempted to pick up food on the way home because I was so tired, like Wendy's or In-N-Out, but as I was driving I convinced myself "you got ground beef at home, you got veggies, it'll take 5 mins to make it". Reason prevailed. Sweet. The burger came out real well for safeway ground beef on a foreman.
~ 1 am: some milk
3:30 am: bed . Damn work. Def need to sleep more.

oh, I should also mention I have at least 1 cup of coffee daily, always with h&h, occasionally w/ a little sugar (mainly if I get iced coffee).
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07-02-2009 , 11:15 AM
On your deadlift, you start with your hips too low, idk how big of a deal it is but you need to get your hips up more and keep your chest up.
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07-02-2009 , 11:43 AM
hmmmm.... I disagree. I'm looking at my heaviest set of 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cnxv_lfnzY

My setup is straight out of SS. Walk up to the bar, bar directly over midfoot, break at the hips to grip the bar, then bend knees until the shins touch the bar, straighten back, chest up, pull. I'm not seeing any major wasted movement in my hips during the lift. If they were set up too low, they'd rise before the chest until the weight came off the floor. Different bodies are going to result in a variety of hip height at the start position.
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07-02-2009 , 05:23 PM
Food for today so far, then I'm off to SD in a few hours.

9 am: 4 eggs scrambled w/ tomatoes and spinach in a little butter, cheddar cheese. I decided I don't like tomatoes in my eggs. Too much water.

1 pm: salad w/ quinoa, carrots, mixed greens, celery, cucumbers, and squash w/ olive oil, pepper, and a little balsamic, + deli sliced turkey (probably 6-8 oz).

I brought a 1/2 lb (pre-cooked) cheeseburger (no bun) and some broccoli to work for dinner before I leave.

Some Qs for when I get back on it on Monday:

What should I make my DL workset be? In the previous post, that's me doing 260, relatively easily. Last DL workout slayed me, though. Couldn't get more than 1 rep 250. Maybe 240?

If I want to add something like pull throughs at the end of my workout, how should the programming go? How heavy, how many reps/sets etc?

My knees are kinda sore again. I might just squat 135 next time and hammer out form.
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07-02-2009 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
hmmmm.... I disagree. I'm looking at my heaviest set of 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cnxv_lfnzY

My setup is straight out of SS. Walk up to the bar, bar directly over midfoot, break at the hips to grip the bar, then bend knees until the shins touch the bar, straighten back, chest up, pull. I'm not seeing any major wasted movement in my hips during the lift. If they were set up too low, they'd rise before the chest until the weight came off the floor. Different bodies are going to result in a variety of hip height at the start position.
fair enough, the video I had watched looked like your hips were pretty low.
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07-02-2009 , 06:18 PM
i tried comparing that vid with the fail from the latest trying to see if there was a difference, and there might be. As I said, the platform there sags a little bit so maybe that was inhibiting my lifts slightly. I'll lift from the floor next time.
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07-02-2009 , 06:28 PM
I don't know **** much about lifting, but I like your attitude and honestly. Good luck and keep er going.
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07-02-2009 , 06:42 PM
Those are excellent deadlifts.
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07-02-2009 , 07:14 PM
ty. Then why did I fail so hard last time?

And if you could when you get a chance, can you take a look at my latest power clean vids? Kinda struggling with these.
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07-02-2009 , 07:25 PM
liveblogging it:

feet and grip too wide.

pulling with your arms (not horrible).

elbows a little slow.

from the side:

doesn't look like you are getting set properly. Should see your entire body swell and lock as you take a giant breath then liftoff.

no shrug.

jumping back not up.

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You're basically doing a really fast deadlift. EXPLODE
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07-02-2009 , 09:07 PM
how are my feet too wide that's the same as my DL? I guess I'll record the DL from the front next time too to check. I just kind of think about doing a broad jump for a second and put my feet where it feels right for that.

I take a slightly wider grip because I have trouble racking with my hands at the DL position. Should I just slide my hands out a little as I rack?

Shrug is def something I need to work on. When I'm mindful of it the lift is infinitely easier. We'll see next week I guess.
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07-03-2009 , 04:19 PM
Nice deadlifts man. I just did a set at 265 about an hour ago. I forgot to put my gloves on though and almost lost my grip on the bar on the 5th rep.
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07-03-2009 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mrh86
Nice deadlifts man. I just did a set at 265 about an hour ago. I forgot to put my gloves on though and almost lost my grip on the bar on the 5th rep.
ban
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07-03-2009 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SmileyEH
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Lemme guess, you're a purist, and you'd rather me use chalk or an over/under grip than gloves.
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07-03-2009 , 04:53 PM
Besides the whole hot-flash element, there are efficiency reasons why gloves aren't a good option. In addition to effectively making the bar thicker, gloves can increase slippage.

Mixed grip > chalk > think rubber grips > straps > gloves, IMO (first two interchangeable based on other factors)
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07-03-2009 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by anklebreaker
Besides the whole hot-flash element, there are efficiency reasons why gloves aren't a good option. In addition to effectively making the bar thicker, gloves can increase slippage.

Mixed grip > chalk > think rubber grips > straps > gloves, IMO (first two interchangeable based on other factors)
My gloves have grips on them.
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07-03-2009 , 09:19 PM
lol
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07-04-2009 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mrh86
My gloves have grips on them.
2*3,14*dr > 2*dr

maths imo
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07-05-2009 , 08:52 AM
mrh86, you are looking good baby -- you are looking good
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07-06-2009 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by anklebreaker
Besides the whole hot-flash element, there are efficiency reasons why gloves aren't a good option. In addition to effectively making the bar thicker, gloves can increase slippage.

stronger grip > Mixed grip > chalk > think rubber grips > straps > gloves, IMO (first two interchangeable based on other factors)
I've even seen some vids of an elite power lifter who uses a hook grip on super heavy deads. ouch.

And really, chalk and mix grip order probably depends on the weight. Chalk will add a fair amount of pounds to what you can do double overhand.

As for my workout/food log, I was away for the 4th and drank a ton and ate OK but not great. It was definitely worth it.
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07-06-2009 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mrh86
My gloves have grips on them.
Do they match your purse?

Last edited by Grue; 07-06-2009 at 06:45 PM. Reason: obv
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