Before today the most i've done was 315-335 in a long time.
In be4 red flagged.

Doesn't look like you locked out. But I don't know enough to judge well.

Not sure you locked out fully, but niiiiiiice speed off the floor nonetheless.

Yeah, you guys are prob right and thanks.

11$ MTT just made me a tad bit tilted not gonna lie....

Cake Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100.00/t200.00 Blinds - 7 players - View hand 2313312
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MP: t14562.00 72.81 BBs
CO: t6639.00 33.20 BBs
BTN: t2550.00 12.75 BBs
Hero (SB): t4898.00 24.49 BBs
BB: t2308.00 11.54 BBs
UTG: t3902.00 19.51 BBs
UTG+1: t5305.00 26.52 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is SB with 9 9
2 folds, MP calls t200, 2 folds, Hero raises to t4878, 1 fold, MP calls t4678

Flop: (t9956) A 7 Q (2 players)

Turn: (t9956) T (2 players)

River: (t9956) J (2 players)

Final Pot: t9956
MP shows 6 J
Hero shows 9 9
MP wins t10096.00
(Rake: t-140)

9/23/13 Monday- Lower body hypertrophy
to lazy to write out workout at 630am, about to goto sleep.

2,627 calories
55g fats
365g carbs
179g protein

Red light imo - there clearly isn't a lockout - your knees are still bent. Having said that, I don't compete and am not 100% sure I know the exact minimums for a white light DL. Also, that's a lot more than I've ever DLed (yet) .

That DL is mostly back - your glutes (and possibly hamstrings) aren't strong enough to lock out or break it off the floor, that's why it's breaking off the floor quickly (all back) and not able to lock out.

DLing like that is hell on your low back you may be able to get away with it for ____ amount of time but at some point you'll probably have significant and potentially lasting issues. Jdock (dassem ultor) DLed for years with a rounded low back and mysteriously is having low back issues recently yet seemingly doesn't see the connection (or doesn't want to). He never learned proper form b/c it meant going way down in weight.

You want your low back completely neutral throughout your DL - never rounding (yours starts significantly rounded fyi) or over extending. Your lower back is all about stability, not mobility and the more you're bending or extending it under load, the more it will wear out.

But, do whatever you want, it's not my back .

That's pretty sick how you don't even deadlift and you picked up 375 like it was a ragdoll. There is no lockout but who cares that's easy to fix.

As far the rounded back, I can't comment too much on that. You are indeed using tons of lowback. All the folks who started deadlifting like that, they all had problems fixing it. I can't think of anybody who ever deadlifted using lots of lowback who was able to fix it. Maybe Montecore but I don't recall his early deadlift at all. Supposedly Soulman fixed that issue, but he never posts videos and is hiding.

All I am saying is, no worries if you don't deadlift. You bodybuild, that's your priority. Deadlifts are an underrated exercise in society. But here in H&F I truly believe they are overrated.

Nice lift bro. For 165lbs, very nice. Considering you probably don't even deadlift, very very very impressive.

It doesn't look like you locked out, but I don't think you would have any trouble doing so.

The lift looked pretty easy honestly. You definitely can pull more given how fast that bar flew off the ground. Having said that, I wouldn't go any heavier until you fix up your form issues. Way too much low back and your set up needs fixing. Fix your form and you'll be pulling 405+ for reps very shortly.

Anyways didn't mean to come out discouraging you from deadlifting. H&F is going to come after me.

Just saying that your bench fix is obviously very easy. But that deadlift fix is going to be a nightmare. Sorry just reporting what I have seen here in H&F. Snitch hasn't slept in over a year trying to fix it. And he has a very subtle version of it. Jdock broke his back. Soulman is hiding even though he supposedly fixed it (lies). Dudd can't fix it either and he might be getting worse and starting to look like hunchback of notre dame.

The issue is a facking nightmare. Maybe Montecore solved it. Don't know.

Some people run away from the issue and seek sumos instead.

I think I solved it mostly, but it involved a lot of high rep low weight DL sets and not really adding weight to my DL for about a year. I'm getting back to somewhat of a powerlifting focus now, so it remains to be seen whether or not I can progress somewhat linearly and start pulling decent weight; that said, I'm most concerned with the overall health of my back, so if I'm not lifting as much as I "could" be, then oh well.

Gotta disagree with Loco. Even if you're solely interested in hypertrophy, 5x10x70% double overhand is the perfect way to start any back day.

5x10 70% is not possible bro. Pretty sure no human being, especially in H&F, can do that.
And OP here would herniate a disk by the second week.

Thanks guys
very good posts I just woke up only got 4 hours of sleep gonna try to get a few more hours. before I do so I want to say that I am very glad I filmed because until this point I never knew I had any issues deadlifting. I never really deadlift heavy it's usually 315 for a few reps and isn't that hard. Keeping that in mind, as some of you might realize I do not care about strength, I lift for bodybuilding reasons. Hope I don't come off like a tool for saying that but it's the truth. The reason I went heavy is because my ego is to big and from this point on I'm going to be posting more videos and hoping to fix my form up doing lighter weight so I don't snap my chit. Pretty sure I'm gonna get torn up for my squats too but phuck only way to learn properly. I'm kinda annoyed at the people I workout with too. Everyone that has seen me squat or deadlift Always tells me it looks fine. Prob too busy watching phucking ESPN on the TV to give a chit.

OP please have "good arch" in your low back at all times when handling weight, your back did seem a lil rounded, but Im very impressed at your strength especially with sub optimal(dangerous imo) form in your low back

I deloaded with 315x10x4 (unbelted, strapped) a couple times. I'm sure I could've ground out a 5th set. My max unbelted is sub 450. So it's plenty possible. Probably easier if you pull sumo since the lower back fatigues faster than the legs and glutes.

Never have my middle back and lower lats been so sore though.

Me.

Although it depends on what you mean by "fixed". I still use more low back than I'd like but I can pull quite heavy (for me) and keep it neutral and tight. If I drop down in weight I can load my glutes/hamstrings better so that I'm not using my low back as much.

Snitch is getting to where I used to be where I still used my low back too much (hips rising at the beginning of the pull) but I kept my back tight. While I don't have my "new" top-down technique completely locked in yet, it's helping me keep my hips down on most heavy reps. Although I'm sure for 1rm my low back would get loaded up and likely round. Not like that video though - never again.

Part of this is stylistic and has to do with how you're built. I have a long torso and shortish arms so getting into a good position where I can sit back and keep my back at somewhat of an angle has always been a challenge. But if I can do it, anyone can do it.

Sorry Yugo. You don't count bro. I remember your old deadlift was funky looking and your hips rised and you pulled with a horizontal back.

I am specifically talking about deadlifters who when they originate the pull, their lowback buckles. That would be King Jdock. Followed by Dudd, Soulman, and maybe Crunchyblack. I would like to see any of those people video a pull of 90+%1RM on video. It would be super informative because they would in my IMO be the ultimate authority on how to fix this issue, if they indeed have fixed it.

Like I said, Montecore maybe. Maybe. Not remembering his original pulls.

Nightmare, nightmare issue. And while a certain Gorilla armed bigboy is the ultimate authority on deadlifts, he keeps repeating himself to these lowback rounders like a broken record. And obviously his advice is the best. But the lowback buckling off the floor continues.

Sorry. I am with Candito and the HodgeTwins. For some it might be best to retire the deadlift.

I'm still not certain I'm ever going to try a true 1RM on DL; both upper and lower back tightness and stability have always been an issue for me, and I'm not sure the juice is worth the squeeze, so to speak. My plan is to progress from sets of 5 to triples and hopefully get to a point where my projected 1RM is respectable. After that, we'll see.

I pull sumo now like a civilized person and never pick up anything too heavy so my issures are fixed

Loco - I don't understand what you mean, why wouldn't my DL count?

Here is my DL 6 months into SS a couple years ago - plenty of buckling imo:



Here is my DL in June while I was recovering from deathmoon - no buckling but still with my old technique:

JFC I look like a rolly polly ogre whose back is about to snap in the stillscreen of the first video.

Lean, mean, DLing machine in the second. Almost the same weight though so lol me.

belt tho. invalid

Fine, here's pre-deathmoon:

I think we should strip out this Deadlift stuff into its own thread and let the man have his log. That said, here is a post that reminds me to respect the Deadlift (and lifting in general):

Protect that back man.