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08-22-2009 , 03:50 AM

Idiotex

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I just laid my friend 10:1 that nobody would break 9 seconds for the 100m in the next 30 years.

I imagine that a sub 9 second time is "impossible", but can somebody who knows something about this sort of thing provide some insight.

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08-22-2009 , 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Idiotex

I just laid my friend 10:1 that nobody would break 9 seconds for the 100m in the next 30 years.

I imagine that a sub 9 second time is "impossible", but can somebody who knows something about this sort of thing provide some insight.

yes.

30 yrs is LOL for a prop bet.

glad i could help.

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08-22-2009 , 09:48 AM

DrQian

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I hope you got the money off him now.

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08-22-2009 , 01:14 PM

JohnnyFondue

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I opened this thread expecting a prop bet about someone proposing they could run the 100m in x amount of time

30 year prop bet. I'll escrow if you want.

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08-22-2009 , 03:36 PM

Halstad

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In the last 45 years the world record has gone down by 0.48. I think it is a lock it doesn't go down another 0.58 in the next 30

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08-22-2009 , 04:10 PM

schlucky1

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I think you made a good bet, but 30 years, WTF?!

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08-22-2009 , 11:27 PM

J.Brown

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this reminds me of the NEVER prop bets. they kill me and i see them made all the time.

just let me hold the monies...........hahhaahha.

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08-22-2009 , 11:56 PM

marshmallowsocks

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ahh a death bed prop bet.
I was a pretty decent 100M runner in high school, and a couple of my relatives have worked with college and professional runners. They basically all agree that Gay and Bolt most likely discovered a new drug. It doesn't make sense for times to plateau and then dramatically decrease like we've seen in the past year. It's highly highly highly unlikely that a person will break 9 seconds(like a billion to one) and even if they do, it will be with the help of drugs.

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08-23-2009 , 12:22 AM

Idiotex

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I understand everyone being a little taken aback by the length of the prop bet. We did actually bet money on it, but it was more about settling an argument.

Maybe Bolt and Gay have discovered a new drug, or maybe training techniques and technologies have improved and Bolt's body type - previously thought undesirable for a sprinter - is closer to optimal than that of a tradional sprinting shape.

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08-23-2009 , 01:01 AM

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marshmallowsocks

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i'll make a prop bet with you.

i'll bet 50 dollars on a 10-1 bet that either bolt or gay get caught for drugs within the next five years.

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08-23-2009 , 01:36 AM

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All kidding aside Idiotex, given the nature of the bet, and the nearly insurmountable challenge of breaking into 8 secs, I'd say it is fair to bank on your bet. Bolt is just about as perfect of an athlete there is to run that race. With the height and length of stride, rate of stride etc. He is going to beat that record, I have little doubt. Maybe get to 9.4. But below 9 I'm not even sure if it is humanly possible.

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08-26-2009 , 07:46 AM

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Why couldn't they be taking HGH? I thought there was no test for that.

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08-26-2009 , 08:55 AM

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kahntrutahn

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WOW, he made a huge sucker bet! Get the money up front and invest it, lets assume market rates of 8% return over 30 years... 1k, turns into 10,062.66.... so even if you somehow lose he bet, you will net a little over 2 bucks a year on this bet

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08-26-2009 , 10:48 AM

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BreakfastBurrito

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Does this have to be an official IAAF world record? It might be important to clarify that as there quite possibly will be gene therapies available that could drastically enhance muscle fibre density, but will likely be illegal in offiicial competition. FWIW, it seems like most experts in either the biomechanics of sprinters or statisticians who use extreme value theories have settled on about 9.25-9.51 as the likely human limit.

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08-26-2009 , 01:11 PM

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marshmallowsocks

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^YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

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08-26-2009 , 01:17 PM

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^YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE...

fyp and awaiting answer.

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08-26-2009 , 01:46 PM

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marshmallowsocks

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Why couldn't they be taking HGH? I thought there was no test for that.

b/c they don't actually want to put on extra pounds. this race isn't about strength it's about strength/pound

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08-26-2009 , 01:47 PM

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marshmallowsocks

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fyp and awaiting answer.

I'm not writing a paragraph to go into this. contact a college/professional coach and tell them what you said. they'll laugh in your face. google if you want an explanation

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08-26-2009 , 01:58 PM

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I'm not writing a paragraph to go into this. contact a college/professional coach and tell them what you said. they'll laugh in your face. google if you want an explanation

lol why would I want to contact a college coach? I know some (football, wrestling, boxing). And I know many professional coaches (boxing). Some are kinda dumb. You put an arrow to suggest BreakfastBurriito doesn't know what he is talking about. But I tend to agree with him that biomechanics limit human capabilities in this sport. In fact, every sport. And even further agree that it will take things like gene therapy or some other type of drastic manipulation to our current form to be able to go that much faster then presently possible.

Ya can't make a statement like that, then say go find out for yourself.

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08-26-2009 , 02:10 PM

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marshmallowsocks

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I was talking about a track coach jackass.

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08-26-2009 , 02:17 PM

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I was talking about a track coach jackass.

yes I know. And might I respond with sumthin @ your lev3l. GTFO moran.

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08-26-2009 , 02:18 PM

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milesdyson

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good to know that all college track coaches are legit.

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08-26-2009 , 02:24 PM

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marshmallowsocks

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mine was.

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08-26-2009 , 02:40 PM

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Halstad

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Originally Posted by marshmallowsocks

b/c they don't actually want to put on extra pounds. this race isn't about strength it's about strength/pound

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08-26-2009 , 02:45 PM

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marshmallowsocks

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ok think of an offensive lineman in an NFL. now think of a sprinter. The OL will definitely be able to squat more, bench more, etc. However, the sprinter will be able to squat more in terms of % of his body weight. There comes a point where you don't actually want to gain more muscle for the sprints. Look at Bolt. He's proof of this.

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