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07-05-2020 , 02:45 PM
I used to have a thread here where I lost a bunch of weight largely in the pursuit of getting laid.


https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/8...-life-1261287/


It went well for a while, both the getting laid and the weight loss. Its all documented in the thread but losing that 150-odd pounds was obviously a life changer. Falling back into old habits over the last three or so years has equally re-changed my life. I'm not at peak fat again but we're getting close. After learning of YTFs passing and for whatever reason it hitting right in the feels I'm feeling motivated. While I dont think I'm actually capable of making life long changes I'm hoping being spurred on by YTF and the novelty of making this thread will get the scale going back in the right direction for a while. I took out private health insurance a few months ago and I can get bariatric surgery next April. Losing some weight before then would be nice.

Will do IF (16/8 or 18/6 or whatever, I dunno if that gets **** on but having hard and fast rules seemed to work for me) and SS. Getting into the gym from day one cant hurt. Everyone in the previous thread said my old super big cal deficit was unsustainable. Ofc they were all right and this time I'll probably eat more than last time. Will try and log every day YTF style.

27/8/12 - 352
22/7/13 - 222
25/7/13 - 214
??/??/14 - 203
??/??/15 - 269
07/02/16 - 235.5
12/02/16 - 232.1


06/07/20 - 321.8. Yuck.
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07-05-2020 , 06:06 PM
Sorry to hear that, man, but glad to see you realized you needed to reverse things and came back; slow and steady wins the race and all that. What's your daily calorie target?
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07-05-2020 , 06:10 PM
Welcome back! Looking forward to seeing your progress
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07-05-2020 , 06:44 PM
Good luck - I will follow with interest.

I started my diet in February last year with a crash diet. It struck me as a good idea at the time - it reverses non-alcoholic fatty liver disease pretty quickly. Nothing I've seen subsequently has been sufficient to make me change my mind. There was a study done by the University of Tyneside, where a crash diet reversed Type 2 diabetes for more than 50% of the participants.

Details are here:
https://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/researc...etes/reversal/

If you don't have diabetes or pre-diabetes, slow and steady may well be better.
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07-06-2020 , 11:37 AM
Thanks guys.

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Originally Posted by Montecore
Sorry to hear that, man, but glad to see you realized you needed to reverse things and came back; slow and steady wins the race and all that. What's your daily calorie target?
I like the idea of eating now what would be maintenance at goal weight. So ill aim for 1800 each day.

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I started my diet in February last year with a crash diet.

If you don't have diabetes or pre-diabetes, slow and steady may well be better.
No diabetes, yet. Its in my family though. I like the idea of crash dieting largely for compliance reasons. Motivation wains (for me anyway) so getting as much off as fast as possible feels GTO... but probably isn't.




167g P/61g F/52g C

Panfried chipotle seasoned chicken with pumpkin mash. Ate it over two sittings. Was easy and tasty, will probably become a staple. Went shopping and bought a few cooking staples today; cast iron skillet and decent crock pot. Planning to make turkey chilli and beef stew at some point this week. Also SS is going to have to wait as gyms are still closed where I am because of Covid. I'll walk the dog daily for some light exercise. Also have a good set of resistance bands so I'll find a video on youtube or something of some hot chick with perky tits to use those along to and shake my fat a bit.

Last edited by Teethwash2; 07-06-2020 at 11:43 AM.
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07-06-2020 , 11:59 AM
My recommendation is to find one of the many online nutrition coaches and sign up for a while (12 weeks at least) for a couple reasons:
1. You will learn about food, what is good and works for you.
2. Will help with compliance

You will hopefully learn enough about yourself and food to carry on down the road. Instead of saying it is what it is, you can learn changes to Make that are sustainable. Crash/starvation methods aren’t sustainable.

Exercise is good, but learning about you and food going forward will provide much greater results.
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07-07-2020 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by droopy0021
My recommendation is to find one of the many online nutrition coaches and sign up for a while (12 weeks at least) for a couple reasons:
1. You will learn about food, what is good and works for you.
2. Will help with compliance

You will hopefully learn enough about yourself and food to carry on down the road. Instead of saying it is what it is, you can learn changes to Make that are sustainable. Crash/starvation methods aren’t sustainable.

Exercise is good, but learning about you and food going forward will provide much greater results.
This is good advice

OP- I just read your entire old thread.
While you definitely were eating too little at 1200 calories a day you were never an excuse maker at all.
You absolutely are capable of making life long changes.
You just need to know exactly what those changes should be and you can stick to them.
Learn from your past mistakes and keep the same attitude from that thread and you'll do well
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07-07-2020 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by droopy0021
My recommendation is to find one of the many online nutrition coaches and sign up for a while (12 weeks at least) for a couple reasons:
1. You will learn about food, what is good and works for you.
2. Will help with compliance

You will hopefully learn enough about yourself and food to carry on down the road. Instead of saying it is what it is, you can learn changes to Make that are sustainable. Crash/starvation methods aren’t sustainable.

Exercise is good, but learning about you and food going forward will provide much greater results.
You're right and its something ill look into. I did see a psychologist last time but I'm pretty impulsive and not that bright so it didn't do much for me. Probably didn't help that my motivation was purely looking better and the pursuit of health wasnt really a factor.

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Originally Posted by borg23
This is good advice

OP- I just read your entire old thread.
While you definitely were eating too little at 1200 calories a day you were never an excuse maker at all.
You absolutely are capable of making life long changes.
You just need to know exactly what those changes should be and you can stick to them.
Learn from your past mistakes and keep the same attitude from that thread and you'll do well
Appreciate the faith. Now that I'm older I do think theres some chance I can make long term changes but its definitely a dog to just going crazy for 6 months and losing 100lbs and being satisfied with that and finding myself in the same position as today in a few years. We'll see.

Last edited by Teethwash2; 07-07-2020 at 12:56 PM.
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07-07-2020 , 12:51 PM


153g P/ 63g F/ 128g C

Oats and banana for first meal. I'm not hardcore enough to make it with water yet. Meatballs and tomato sauce for dinner.

Where I live just got locked down for a further six weeks which means I'm stood down for at least that period. I'd like to lose 30lbs between now and then. I've gained 25lbs in the past 3-4 months of lockdown so getting back to that weight at least before going back to work would be nice. I was already in stuggle town being that fat while working, being any heavier and going back will be torture.
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07-07-2020 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Teethwash2
You're right and its something ill look into. I did see a psychologist last time but I'm pretty impulsive and not that bright so it didn't do much for me. Probably didn't help that my motivation was purely looking better and the pursuit of health wasnt really a factor.
There are a number of online nutrition sites that offer one on one plans. Stronger U is one but there are many others. I’d strongly recommend that then arbitrary 6 week weight goal. They’ll help focus on the foundation, provide you a plan and answer questions along the way.

Work on what they tell you, the pounds will follow. Almost a guarantee.
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07-08-2020 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by droopy0021
There are a number of online nutrition sites that offer one on one plans. Stronger U is one but there are many others. I’d strongly recommend that then arbitrary 6 week weight goal. They’ll help focus on the foundation, provide you a plan and answer questions along the way.

Work on what they tell you, the pounds will follow. Almost a guarantee.
So I looked into Stronger U and it does sound great. However as embarrassing as it is, because of Covid I havent been working for about 4 months so the cost is relatively prohibitive. My best friends wife is a dietitian who works almost exclusively with super fats so I've set up a meeting with her. Hopefully that'll be a good stop gap for the meantime. The 6 week thing is just a goal along the road of many many more.
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07-08-2020 , 01:27 PM


167 P/ 58 F/ 151 C

Oats and barbecued tandoori chicken. Not bad, wouldn't rave. Got in over 10000 steps with my dog as well, been a long time since we've walked that far.
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07-09-2020 , 10:49 AM


116g P/ 96g F/ 125g C
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07-09-2020 , 11:31 PM
Welcome back and good luck!
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07-10-2020 , 03:23 PM
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Welcome back and good luck!
Appreciate it!



167g P/ 96g F/ 58g C

Weigh in day tomorrow.
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07-11-2020 , 06:24 PM


111g P/ 37g F/ 126g C

Stew was this: https://www.onceuponachef.com/recipe...-potatoes.html. Which was delicious if anyone feels like making the same. Admittedly for the cals I didnt do it myself and just took what the recipe listed as gospel. Made it exactly the same though so should be similiar at worst.

Feeling really good. This is what it was like last time I dropped a bunch of weight, it just felt easy. Not starving or miserable from eating less and moving a lot more. Mood is so much better in general. Its really nice.

Weigh in:

27/8/12 - 352
??/??/14 - 203
06/07/20 - 321.8

12/07/20 - 313.2 (-8.3)

Stoked obv, especially since its been less than a week. Expecting a lot less for the week two blues but will hammer it out.
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07-11-2020 , 11:06 PM
I enjoyed your first thread and I'm glad you're back getting after it Fat again
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07-12-2020 , 03:35 AM
Congrats on your big loss! Keep it up TW2, I hope you reach your goal and keep it off.
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07-12-2020 , 08:21 AM
Teethwash was never my horse. Nor was wildeebeast.

Ytf was my horse.

But Ytf is dead and wildeebeast most likely is dead also. And MLYLT is next with nonstop smoking, ice cream and pizza.

And thus we all in on the teethwash horse. Take us to the promised land of the fit, where former fatties frolick on the clouds in health bliss.

But be forewarned that this was ytf

I caught my reflection for a moment, and noticed a big, goofy grin on my face. I was already pretty psyched about 182, and now coupled with a sugar high, I was euphoric, and I actually thought, "This is what winning the lottery must feel like. Seriously, I'll bet Power Ball winners just walk around, stunned that it's happened to them, unable to wipe the smiles off their faces."

Then I took that thought a step further: mine must be BETTER than a Power Ball hit, because if a 380-lb guy offered me $100M to trade with him, I'd turn him down. What I was feeling at that moment, I would not trade for $100,000,000. Can you imagine that?


........


My entire adult life, I've only hoped to live to 65. Why that number? I don't know, probably because my old man died at 64 (he wasn't fat, cigarettes killed him). But as fat as I've always been, I thought it was foolish to expect to live into my 70s, let alone 80s. My loved ones would cringe when I'd joke about "the best thing about being this fat is not having to save for my retirement", or "thirty-year mortgage? the joke's on them, I'm not going to be alive in 30 years!", or when I described the shortness of breath caused by my moldy apartment a few months ago as, "I figured it was just the advent of my first heart attack."

Tonight was the first time in my adult life that I imagined being healthy and happy at 65. The first time that I ever dared to dream about being 75 some day.

You think I'm not going to the gym tonight?


That's the pattern we all see. They all talk a good game but its just lies.

There is one guy( in real life) that made me eat my shorts. I gave him a $1000 freeroll four years ago that he would never be less than 220. He had been 6'2" 280-310 his whole adult today.

I lost that freeroll four years ago when he hit 220 within a year and I paid up.

I talked to him a few months ago and he shed a tear about all his lost years as a fattie (he is 63). And now he hiked and basically frolicked in the clouds up in the Colorado Rockies, where he has a house.

Same guy, just sent me this three days ago

212 today. Lowest weight since, maybe 15 yrs old


I have had a million conversations about health and fitness with him. But I had almost had zero to do with the success, even though he took me for a dime. He figured out what worked for him. He does IF with very low carbs. So two restrictive diets and then once in a while will fast a whole day.

It works for him, I lost that bet 4 years ago and now he is at an adult low weight. So you gotta find what works for you, not just now but for all of life.

I am very happy with 8 hours weekly exercise and eating plenty of my favorite low calorie meals (ceviche, veggies + lean meat, protein salad bowls, chili etc etc). Those keep me full and my exercise burns all my beer, pizza and dessert. I would literally be Ytf if I didn't exercise. Exercise is a constant reminder to get back on that horse after eating a whole pizza. Always on that horse. Gotta get back on. Everyday. For all of life. Don't let it run in front of you for very long, you will never see it again. Literally.
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07-12-2020 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
Teethwash was never my horse. Nor was wildeebeast.

Ytf was my horse.

But Ytf is dead and wildeebeast most likely is dead also. And MLYLT is next with nonstop smoking, ice cream and pizza.

And thus we all in on the teethwash horse. Take us to the promised land of the fit, where former fatties frolick on the clouds in health bliss.
I've never been more stoked to be the peoples last choice. Cant wildeebeast just be alive and happily married? Admittedly he's probably fat again.

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Originally Posted by loco
Always on that horse. Gotta get back on. Everyday. For all of life. Don't let it run in front of you for very long, you will never see it again. Literally.
Poetry.

Won't lie, that horse runs mighty fast.

That post by YTF is actually pretty haunting now that hes dead.



52g P/ 74g F/ 209g C

Probably a worry I had dumplings this soon in but here we are. Sunday is always gunna be a less strict day due to real life stuff.
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07-12-2020 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
Always on that horse. Gotta get back on. Everyday. For all of life. Don't let it run in front of you for very long, you will never see it again. Literally.
This needs to be a Sticky at the top of H&F and the official motto or something.

Loco,
I'm past the two week mark not smoking.

Teeth,
The problems are all in your mind, you gotta fix that first. You didn't get over 300lbs because you were a happy guy enjoying life.
I would suggest getting meds for the impulsiveness. It's ****ing hard/kinda impossible trying to strengthen your brain in that regards.
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07-12-2020 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Teeth,
The problems are all in your mind, you gotta fix that first. You didn't get over 300lbs because you were a happy guy enjoying life.
I would suggest getting meds for the impulsiveness. It's ****ing hard/kinda impossible trying to strengthen your brain in that regards.
I dunno if I necessarily subscribe to the idea that eating a couple hundred calories a day too much over a sustained period is always a result of being miserable or there something being up mentally. I guess not doing something about it sooner might lend itself to that idea though.
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07-12-2020 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
This needs to be a Sticky at the top of H&F and the official motto or something.

Loco,
I'm past the two week mark not smoking.


Teeth,
The problems are all in your mind, you gotta fix that first. You didn't get over 300lbs because you were a happy guy enjoying life.
I would suggest getting meds for the impulsiveness. It's ****ing hard/kinda impossible trying to strengthen your brain in that regards.
MLY, you smoked six days ago according to your thread.
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07-13-2020 , 01:41 PM
Give and take.
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07-13-2020 , 01:57 PM
Good luck with your efforts, Teeth! In the end efforts pay off. You will find yourself lighter than you would have been otherwise.
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