Turns out we're K with DT after all, loco.... fairly sure you Mexican's are still f*cked tho.

"Overnight Mr Trump slightly moderated his language, telling a Washington function that "I have a lot of respect for Australia, I love Australia as a country"

I still say attacking liberals for causing right-wing conversions by annoying snootiness is like walking into a room with Patrick Bateman and me and saying, "Holliday, you need to be more respectful of women!"

Even if it's correct in isolation, the guy next to me murders them and feeds their vaginas to rats!

A fitting analogy as all those things PB "did" never actually occurred and were imagined.

I remember being so mad when I saw the movie American Psycho 2 for rent in a video store,

That's up for debate, although the director definitely made some mistakes throughout the film if that's not the case.

Its up for debate in the same way anthropogenic climate change is "up for debate".

lol @ citing the movie when we're talking about the book

I don't agree that universities are required to host any speaker on campus, nor that this infringes their free speech rights. Somewhere along the line they should be perfectly at liberty to say "**** off", especially to pure trolls just looking for attention. This is obviously much more of a case for private organizations or websites.

That being said, I think very, very few people should be banned from speaking at universities or public places in general. Neo nazis hold (pathetically small) appeals in Oslo from time to time, which is fine by me.

Any cites for what the peaceful protesters uh, protested? Milo is certainly a piece of **** and I find it troubling that Evo describes him as a "good guy overall" when he does **** like this: http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/milo...milwaukee.html

Breitbart's "coverage" of the same case: http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/1...s-locker-room/

He obviously LOVES all the attention **** like this and being banned from Twitter gives him, which is annoying but hey. Pathetic attention whores aren't anything new, even if the alt right version is.

Is it possible that some student/liberal groups go too far in wanting safe spaces/decrying certain speakers? Sure, possibly. I don't really have a strong opinion on that since I don't have hours to dedicate to reading up on the subject (which I find very uninteresting in the overall scheme of American politics), but go wild if you want to debate it with others that do.


Apparently you can argue against his position being well thought out and reasonable, but I have literally no interest in diving into any Canadian matters.

I can't believe I forgot this, but there were a ton of stories from Trump rallies during the elections where protesters where straight up beat down, bullied, thrown racial slurs at, threatened etc - I assume you saw some of them unless you live in an alt right bubble/didn't follow the election at all.

I don't know how small or widespread groups like Black Bloc are (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us...ulos-berkeley/). Do you? Why can't the subset be small? Seems like an unreasonable assumption to me.

I don't read CNN unless someone links an article, so no. I did catch Rudy Giuliani 's statement on the Muslim Ban if that's what you're referring to though. http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...im-ban-legally

I don't think anyone was actually making this claim; the point was more that people that are actually invited to visit campus are shouted down before they have a chance to actually speak. I agree that Milo's intentions in all of this are obviously less than honorable, even though there are occasionally some small kernels of insight in between the rampant self promotion and narcissism.

The larger point is that the DEEPER MEANING about all of this, at least how it's interpreted by the OLDS, is that the YOUNGS are incapable of even permitting their views about life and the world to be challenged even a little bit, and that this is a (seemingly logical) extension of the emotional bubblewrapping that their helicopter parents began when they received a participation trophy for passing the Apgar test. That every older generation for time immemorial has thought this about the younger generation is neither here nor there, of course. And obviously the YOUNGS will have some valid bones to pick with the OLDS when their degree in 12th Century Medieval Literature qualifies them for 150k in student loan debt and the creative license to write customer names in Olde English on their coffee cups.

I think these kind of things are much more of a threat to freedom of speech than any protest:

https://www.rt.com/usa/375271-bannon-trump-media-cnn/

I think only a government can restrict free speech and protesting is a symbol of free speech in some countries protesters are shot down.

Also this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN15906G

Man. Makes it stop.

Another millennial tumblrina that needs a #safespace from the fruits of his own troll garden. Sad!

Someone open the February thread already.

I'm eager to read more HOTTAKES on books people don't understand or misinterpretation of human rights.

He started it. It's OK, I'd overcompensate if I spent my whole life in Iowa, too.

Of course not.

However, what Soulman ignores or fails to realize is that it's not that these speakers just tell universities they're coming. They're invited.

Seems like we're pretty much in agreement. I don't think quality speakers/hate spewers/trolls like Milo are needed to challenge anyone's world view, but whatever.

kc,
invited by a student club in this case, not the university itself. Obviously the uni can have legitimate cause to deny speakers the right of appearance if the uni expects security concerns, extreme hate speech, excessive costs etc.

It's a reasonable approximation but don't complain if you don't pass the purity test.

On a somewhat related note how are we supposed to feel about Richard Spencer being punched in the face. He seems bad. But punching people ... also bad?

Read this as "Peanut Butter" the first time. Was really confused for a while. Probably should have just said Bill Cosby.

Actually there was absolutely no distinction... and actually the book was left even more ambiguous than the movie.

The rat thing wasn't in the movie though.

Technically I didn't read the book, but my gf made me read that passage to her over and over again. Seemed like a wonderful opportunity to not ask.

What, precisely, was she doing during the periods while you read her this passage? I'll take my answer off the air.

Oh this wasn't something she'd do during her periods.